$10 a gallon gas is here.

Because they have the high volume pumps with hoses on both sides, and the facilities to accommodate big trucks, so they are fast and convenient for truckers. Also most drivers are paying with a company fuel card so they don’t care what the price is.
Those things existed years ago when truck stops were the most cost effective and best place for me to fill up.
 
It all depends where "here" is.

"There" in CA its $10.

"Here" in TX I just gassed up at $3.29.

LOL
Commodity prices rise everywhere. Not sure chest thumping about >$3 gas is prudent.

He’s in relatively remote desert where prices are always high, beyond the ca markups.
 
1) We also have weather in central Texas... and good air conditioning.

2) Remind me again, the cost of "living" in California? When everyone was fleeing there at the start of Covid, those moving into my neighborhood were giddy at paying only $750k for twice the house at half the cost from where they were living (driving up home prices here).

3) Got me on this one. :(

But then there are the property taxes in Texas. Plus reassessments.
 
Perfect opportunity to ask you a question. I live 75 miles or so north of LI and in Amytvile at The Warehouse Saturday night for a concert. Gas by me is $3.9x-$4.00 right now, yet gas in the Amytvile area was consistntly $3.6x's. Are gas prices in LI often lower than the areas north of LI? Westchester, Putnam, and Dutchess counties are higher right now.
Yes because barges of gasoline dock on Long Island to be distributed throughout Long Island and up north. So as you truck the gas farther away from the gas terminal the price rises because of transportation costs. During COVID when economy shut down I would take my boat out and look at the tons of barges loaded with gas just floating around there was zero demand for gasoline in NYC and surrounding areas
 
I know truck stops often have obscenely high diesel prices - not sure why….
Virtually all commercial vehicles that fuel with diesel have discount cards. Some discount the fuel up to $1/gallon depending on wholesale prices vs. local markup. I think the truck stops figure they will make better margin on the fuel they sell in the retail pumps to make up for the lower margins in the commercial lanes.
 
I'm not sure how the old mechanic figures. For most people, fuel is the #1 variable cost far and running away. Maybe when vehicles were super unreliable and you didn't have 100k on spark plugs or 100k on coolant. And maybe if you are making $1000/mo payments because took a massive vehicle loan, then perhaps fuel isn't the major expense. You have bigger problems than high fuel prices.

But in terms of variable costs, fuel is #1, tires is #2. Nothing else on a per-mile cost is really even close if you Pareto out the factors.

A lot of the driving many of us do is optional. And there's a LOT we can do driving style wise to improved mpg-- the difference between a good MPG and bad MPG driver can be over 30%.

So fuel costs are absolutely significant, but they have to be understood in context.
I'm sure he was exaggerating for effect. It just struck me as inconceivable, almost 50 years ago, that gasoline would ever hit $10/gallon.

I agree - gasoline is, by far, my major cost of running a vehicle. Here are my estimates of what I spent (in C$) on running our van (2007 Dodge Grand Caravan) in 2025:

Mechanical Repairs:
$300 (water pump, serpentine belt, tensioner, EGR valve, bulbs for dash illumination - all labour provided by me)

Maintenance:
$200 (oil changes, brake fluid, ATF spill-and-fill, front wipers - all labour provided by me)

Windshield Deductible:
$300

Tires:
$500 (two new Nokian winter tires)

Insurance:
$800

Gasoline:
$3600

I figure depreciation is $0 at this point.
 
Those things existed years ago when truck stops were the most cost effective and best place for me to fill up.
Once again, the established and familiar business model may have been changed without consulting you (us).

Truck stops can be "serious" but gas stations must be "pretty" and sell a variety of unhealthy food and stuffed toys.
 
I took the old BMW out for a spin. Gas was down $.05 at the closest gas station today. So $1.85 per gallon less than it was at it's all-time high in the summer of 2022...
 
$5.35 gas prices dont sound nearly as headline making as $10

Chris should get a job at weather channel. they turn raindrops into red screens and danger every day ;)
 
Goffs was a water stop for the steam trains. Those trains had to stop about every 10 miles for water.

Goffs is on I-40 about 80 miles east of barstow,ca. It's almost always higher priced than any other place in Ca. Occasionally the station in Death Valley out prices Goffs.

The trains had sidings they would stop for water and those were in alphabetical order.
Can vouch for this. Many tiny places existed only because a railroad built a station there to accompany the ability to replenish steam locomotives. The railroads gave the location the name. Out my way in rural areas some of those places have nothing left because the tracks are long gone and the few buildings were torn down, so the names exist today only on maps.

If you want an interesting exercise, try to find Mason, Virginia. It had been on a long narrow-gauge spur of the old Atlantic & Danville Railroad. I can tell you that the few nearby houses were built long after the tracks were removed about 90 years ago, and they use a post office in another location for their addresses, not Mason.
 
Given your fuel used to be half what we pay in the UK, I'm surprised at those prices in the US.

In the UK petrol is currently an average of £1.50 per Litre which is the equivalent $6.81 per US gal

Diesel is more expensive at £1.80 per Litre or $8.18 per US gal

The outrageous prices people are posting from middle-of-nowhere stations isn’t common. Particularly when thise stations are are in CA, which already has the highest prices in the US.

In Texas I pay 1/3 the price OP posted…$3.33 per gallon va $10
 
Virtually all commercial vehicles that fuel with diesel have discount cards. Some discount the fuel up to $1/gallon depending on wholesale prices vs. local markup. I think the truck stops figure they will make better margin on the fuel they sell in the retail pumps to make up for the lower margins in the commercial lanes.
I stop at a truck stop often just bcs they are about halfway on a normal run. The Drivers come inside and leave with arms full of overpriced stuff … There’s real profit in that …
 
I stop at a truck stop often just bcs they are about halfway on a normal run. The Drivers come inside and leave with arms full of overpriced stuff … There’s real profit in that …
That’s where they are likely making most of their profit. Not that they aren’t making money on fuel, but the profit margins on the convenience items inside the store are huge, and they know that truck drivers will still buy them even if they are marked up.

I was an OTR truck driver, and when you are living out of a truck for weeks at a time, it’s not like you can just pull into a grocery store or a Target or Walmart and go buy what you need. For one, there’s usually nowhere to park, oftentimes the roads leading in and out aren’t truck friendly and when you are in an unfamiliar area, you don’t want to chance it and risk getting yourself stuck somewhere, and more than that, you just don’t have the time to go out of your way for a supplies stop. So you overpay because you know you can get in and out of the place easily, have a place to park, top off your fuel and check your tires while you are there, and it’s right along the highway. If you’re smart and plan and pack well, you can avoid spending half of your paycheck at the Flying J, but inevitably you’re gonna need it at some point.

There’s lots of reasons to dislike truck stops besides the prices, but most of them have to do with other truck drivers.

Anyways, just my .02.
 
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