1 In 5 Auto Accident Deaths Now Involves Marijuana Use

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In my own experience, when drinking, restraint and common sense seems to abandon me. Climbing into a car after a few highballs? Many times. I used to get blackout drunk, wake up in my own bed usually. Always without any money and sometimes with bruises and loose teeth, black eyes. After one of these incidents I quit drinking cold turkey. Went 12 years without a drop. Decided on a hot day mowing the lawn to drink one of the old lady's beers. Tasted so good I drank another. Stopped again for two years. Now I occasionally will have a beer or glass of wine, bourbon and ginger ale. We are talking a couple 3 times a year and only one drink. Unlike a large portion of my family, many now deceased. I don't believe I was an alcoholic but I was on the path to becoming one. Marijuana is a different story. I partied once maybe twice a week in my teens until early 20's. If you wanted chicks, you needed to party imo. Come 1982 the military started urinalysis. I stopped, every job since also tested. I stayed stopped for 40 years. Come retirement last year I partook twice over a couple weeks. It wasn't what I remembered. Will I do it again? Most likely, but maybe with a strain that doesn't leave me comatose like the weed given to me. I severely doubt it will ever become a regular thing like back in the day.
Personally I never wanna have another drink as long as I live. There is nothing but death and destruction there for me.
And I might bring innocent others along with me, which I have zero right to do.
 
My 91 year old father and 92 year old mother in law both use a gummy at night to help get a full night of relaxed sleep. My dad isn't aware he is being dosed but my mother in law does. She was a lifelong hater of marijuana but loved her wine. Now she is a huge proponent of both.
I have absolutely zero problem with pot in this context because the benefits absolutely outweigh any possible issue. My nurse sister in law was initially dead against her father being given a mild opioid for relief of chronic pain when he was in a nursing home after major stroke when Tylenol wasn't doing the job any more. I asked her how it was going to harm him or reduce his quality of life and she realized she wasn't thinking about it rationally.
 
Not true.

Medical research is able to be conducted on any substance as long as it's done with approval from the applicable governmental agencies (typically the FDA, DEA, etc)
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We can have THC studies even though it's currently federally illegal.
We could have alcohol studies even if it were illegal. It's just that it was legal when those studies were being done.

Do not confuse correlation with causation.
That is not how I understand it. It's a class 1 drug treated like heroine etc. which creates issues for medical studies. Recently at the federal level there is work to reduce it to a class 3 which will pave the way for the studies you seek.
 
That is not how I understand it. It's a class 1 drug treated like heroine etc. which creates issues for medical studies. Recently at the federal level there is work to reduce it to a class 3 which will pave the way for the studies you seek.
It's true that schedule one drugs are highly restricted for all purposes including medical research, there isn't an absolute ban on research on schedule one drugs. From what I understand, it's still possible to do research on them, but there are a lot more hoops to jump through to get permission to do so.
 
On a slightly different topic, I thought it was interesting when I heard that coffee pretty much brought advancement to society because people replaced beer with it and so instead of being drunk they were clear minded.

I wonder if all this weed is negatively affecting the advancement of our society?

Not being negative, just curious.
I don't see how it can't help but have a negative effect. As was mentioned, the marijuana being sold today is many times more powerful than the stuff that was available during the 60's, "Hippy generation".

And it's also "legal" in many states, which can't help but increase its use. Not to mention the street drugs being sold today have a very good chance of being laced with Fentanyl. One of the most powerful drugs ever developed. Thousands are dying from overdoses of it every year.

But people keep taking the drugs, along with the risks. Also, the age that people start taking marijuana and street drugs is getting lower and lower seemingly every year. Many young people today got their first taste of them in grammar school.

Absolutely none of this is having a positive effect on society as a whole. Just compare intoxicated people to sober ones. Which do you think benefits a productive society more?

When people are drunk, stoned, or high, they are pretty much useless to anyone, including themselves. And many times they become a danger to themselves, and everyone around them.
 
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A whole lot of states rights folks here that now are all about the feds but of course only on this issue...hilarious!
No. Just stating what is fact from all of this fallacy about, "Medical Marijuana". I couldn't care less if it is made legal or not.

It's much the same, but opposite with abortion. The Supreme Court didn't "ban" it by overturning Roe V Wade. They simply gave it back to the states to decide for themselves. The Supreme Court has made no such ruling on marijuana at the Federal level. Nor do they intend to in the immediate future.

The states just decided to rule on it's legality on their own. Which makes their "decision" to "legalize" it both bogus and meaningless. Because once again, Federal law trumps state law.
 
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No. Just stating what is fact from all of this fallacy about, "Medical Marijuana". I couldn't care less if it is made legal or not.

It's much the same, but opposite with abortion. The Supreme Court didn't "ban" it by overturning Roe V Wade. They simply gave it back to the states to decide for themselves. The Supreme Court has made no such ruling on marijuana at the Federal level. Nor do they intend to in the immediate future.

The states just decided to rule on it's legality on their own. Which makes their "decision" to "legalize" it both bogus and meaningless. Because once again, Federal law trumps state law.
The states made laws based on what their citizens wanted. I believe we are at the crossroads of the Supremacy Clause meets the inefficiencies and biases of federal legislators. The federal government can still choose to enforce Federal law and to take states to court but they are choosing not to. It is not lost on me that many of these federal legislators want to return many decisions back to the states but keep many decisions at the federal level, depending not on what is moral or reasonable, but on what suits their agenda. There is danger in using legality as the only measure of the morality/validity/reasonableness of liberty, especially considering laws change all the time but morality not so much.
 
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Ohio had a ballot measure to legalize marijuana last fall and I voted yes on it. The measure passed.

Despite that, I hate the smell of weed and wont use it as I need a CDL class A for my job and am subject to random DOT drug testing. My wife has an occasional indica strain marijuana gummy to help her sleep which I’ve spoke of a time or two. She gets them at a medical marijuana dispensary. Her employer doesn't care and she has a EMBA from Brown.
 
This was my question. Sounds like a completely made up statistic. There's no way there's that many marijuana smokers. It's not that mainstream even legalized in the few states it is legal.


I totally understand this. I am a bit of a drinker myself on a day off from work, but if I ever saw myself at a danger of being under the influence where I would feel the need to drive or it was affecting my obligations I would immediately cease to have another drop. I think this could be the one thing that keeps me in check.
When I grew up, as early as the 6th grade were friends buying and smoking weed. If times were the same, my own son will start in only 2 years. I don’t like that idea. Now imagine if my parents used it. I actually know a whole slew of what I call 1980’ers who smoked at family gatherings pre legalization, and their parents all used it (I wanna say they were born very early 50’s).

My opinion again is only against driving impaired. I’m not against pot although my employer is not allowed to discriminate against job applicants who test positive for cannabis, I suppose if they use it legally.

What about nitrous oxide? I didn’t see it in Phila but I saw it all over and I mean all over at Citi Field in 2022, at a concert. I assume it’s medical grade, so I doubt resale is legal.
 
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