$1,300+ monthly payment????!!!!!!

[PWMDMD]

Stamford?

If we're going to start dinging people on spelling/grammar/autocorrect errors in quickly written posts made when most of us are at work and/or in the middle of our busy day, few here will survive the scrutiny.

 

[KrisZ]

And? First, I'm not reading too much into those descriptions - what's the objection? Second, how do you know these aren't the classes presenting the "alternative" view to what is otherwise traditional education topics? Again, at least in my opinion, there seems to be a disconnect between what I'm told is happening in some universities and what my actual experience is with people teaching and attending.

Can you give me an example of the traditional education topics and if they are thought in Stanford?

 

[JeffKeryk]

If we're going to start dinging people on spelling/grammar/autocorrect errors in quickly written posts made when most of us are at work and/or in the middle of our busy day, few here will survive the scrutiny.

Well, as a computer programmer, I am grateful for compilers that correct my "Stamford" trying errors. I can fat-finger the keys with the best of them! I am a horrible typist. Horrible. Ha!

 

[Pablo]

If we're going to start dinging people on spelling/grammar/autocorrect errors in quickly written posts made when most of us are at work and/or in the middle of our busy day, few here will survive the scrutiny.

Sure. But it now is at least twice.

I just got a kick out of a great school in a thread about overpaying for a car that turned into a thread about education.

 

[IndyIan]

Here are the starter courses I mentioned. All the buzzwords are there. Inequality, inclusion, climate change, the citizenship is apparently not defined by the country you were born in.
The human extinction is quite fascinating. Planting the seeds of fear comes to my mind first.

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What's wrong with thinking about the really important issues? Where else but college will this happen?
Does anyone think we can maintain the exponential rate of population growth and resource extraction for 100's of years?

Its worth thinking about, probably a bit more important than how to make more 000's in a computer on wall street?

I think colleges should have lots of ideas presented that don't fit the current norms, as no financial or political or social system is perfect, and no system should be held above critical thought, otherwise it turns into a religion which never seems to work out as a form of government....

 

[PWMDMD]

Here are the starter courses I mentioned. All the buzzwords are there. Inequality, inclusion, climate change, the citizenship is apparently not defined by the country you were born in.
The human extinction is quite fascinating. Planting the seeds of fear comes to my mind first.

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I'm not trying to give you a hard time - I'm really just questioning how much of a problem this really is in 2023? We had someone run for school board almost entirely on critical race theory and his feeling was it was rampant. I had a discussion one day with my 12, 15, and 17 year old and none of them felt like any of the ideas in CRT were factors in their education. The 12 and 15-year-olds are pretty apolitical but the 17-year-old is much more right-leaning than either my wife or I am and CRT is something right up his alley and he didn't see it. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but then again how much of it is simply because certain people on TV tell us it's everywhere? Both CRT and the indoctrination of students into Marxist ideology not being what I actually see in my life.

 

[JeffKeryk]

If you don't discuss various topics, such as Socialism vs Capitalism, how do you understand issues associated with them?

 

[4WD]

If you don't discuss various topics, such as Socialism vs Capitalism, how do you understand issues associated with them?

I know - I know … read the original post and get back on topic before the lock …

 

[PWMDMD]

Well, as a computer programmer, I am grateful for compilers that correct my "Stamford" trying errors. I can fat-finger the keys with the best of them! I am a horrible typist. Horrible. Ha!

Sometimes I fight to correct autocorrect 2 or 3 times just to have it revert back before I give up and just let it have its way...lol

 

[JeffKeryk]

I know - I know … read the original post and get back on topic before the lock …

Fair enough. Sometimes I just wish the cloud fist shakers studied a little bit about the cloud they were shaking their well intensioned fist at.

 

[4WD]

Fair enough. Sometimes I just wish the cloud fist shakers knew a little bit about the cloud they were shaking their well intensioned fist at.

Sure - but hard to refer them to a credible source of (non biased) knowledge these days …

 

[PWMDMD]

Fair enough. Sometimes I just wish the cloud fist shakers studied a little bit about the cloud they were shaking their well intensioned fist at.

Right...and many aren't even looking at the cloud directly - they're just being told about the cloud by a third party with an axe to grind, myself included at times, so I do try and keep an open mind. I don't know what is going on at every university just the current one I attend and it does not match what certain sources are telling me.

 

[JeffKeryk]

Sure - but hard to refer them to a credible source of (non biased) knowledge these days …

Someone once told me, the teacher will appear when the student is ready.

 

[JeffKeryk]

Right...and many aren't even looking at the cloud directly - they're just being told about the cloud by a third party with an axe to grind, myself included at times, so I do try and keep an open mind. I don't know what is going on at every university just the current one I attend and it does not match what certain sources are telling me.

My favorite book is "Educated", by Tara Westover. Ms. Westover teaches us education gives us the ability to question our most closly held beliefs. What an incredible life story she codified!

 

[billt460]

I see your point, but I have to disagree somewhat. It is not how much you make or if your work is cyclical; rather it is what you do with your money. Just my 2 cents...

I agree. But the 2 go hand in hand. But you have to be employed to make money to begin with. And that is NOT guaranteed by simply having high cost degrees from a Marxist teaching "prestigious" university.

 

[PWMDMD]

I know - I know … read the original post and get back on topic before the lock …

This is unfortunate because many times, especially in the off-topic forum, one discussion organically leads to another discussion that is worth discussing.

 

[billt460]

What's wrong with thinking about the really important issues?

Nothing..... Assuming you're going to get paid to think about them. Not have to pay to think about them.

 

[JeffKeryk]

I agree. But the 2 go hand in hand. But you have to be employed to make money to begin with. And that is NOT guaranteed by simply having high cost degrees from a Marxist teaching "prestigious" university.

Did you have to mix a good point with a talking point? No offense meant...

 

[gman2304]

E.G. A young lady in the Harvard class of 2019 was born and raised on a Reservation in Wyoming. She was the first person in her family to go to college. Harvard paid for everything. I mean everything. Room, board, tuition, fees, books, spending money, and plane tickets to/from Casper at the beginning and end of each semester.

Her parents didn’t have to pay anything.

I can’t help but think that being a minority female might have helped her odds of being chosen for this full ride to Harvard. Maybe she checked all the boxes for being chosen and wonder how many that might have been more qualified but were skipped over until Harvard found just the right applicant that met their 2023 criteria. A Senator from MA comes to mind.

 

[IndyIan]

Nothing..... Assuming you're going to get paid to think about them. Not have to pay to think about them.

Well no one is forced to be at that institution... I'm sure there's lots of colleges where there are no courses that look critically at anything, but a degree from those type of institutions tends not to be in demand by top employers.