Twenty-five years ago I had to take a course called "Songwriting" that involved no songwriting. We essentially listened to music in a large lecture hall and talked about it. That took care of my art requirement and after taking all the intro sciences courses plus organic 1/2, physical chem 1/2, calc level physics 1/2, math through differential equations, biochem, cell bio, molecular bio, cellular and molecular techniques, immunology, microbiology, vertebrate zoology, advanced inorganic chem, scanning electron microscopy, etc plus a bunch of other general education courses it was a welcome break that did not detract from my overall education. If that was the only class brought to someone's attention I can see how that would be concerning but it was one fluff course amongst dozens of really difficult courses.
$1,300+ monthly payment????!!!!!!
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90% of all adults are NOT working at their dream job but need a paycheck with benefits / retirement.
This is similar to the old Dunkin Donuts guy with mustache waking up at 4 AM to “Make the Donuts”.
No job or career is perfect.
That’s the same as saying my Craftsman tools I bought 30 years ago were excellent quality, made in America and I still use them to this day, buy with confidence.
Higher education has been high jacked by very left wing wackos. How come all the electives include the super left leaning ideology? Like critical race theory, Marxism principles, systemic oppression etc.? Where is the other point of view?
Sure, you take an engineering program, you will have to have hard science classes, no denying that, but all the other stuff kids have to take is based on ideology in a lot of cases. It’s called putting ideas into their heads. And if they do not see the other side of the argument, that will be their default mode of thinking.
I had to take a fine arts class. There was no political slant to it. I also took Western Civ, minimal/no slant there, either, just names dates and events. I took English lit up to the mid 200 level, again, no slant, just studying historic works and authors. The rest of my classes were hard sciences pretty much. I did not encounter much that was liberal or conservative, really. Then again, I graduated in 2010.
Victimization, segregationist of people into groups, group ideology, blaming things on “systemic”- insert anything after that, which then leads to a total abolishment of said system as the only solution. All marxists ideas and teachings.
Apart from my crappy shack in a swamp, going to college was the biggest mistake of my life.
I work in a field where you don't need a degree to be successful. I wish I knew that 16 years ago ... I'll be paying on those student loans for the rest of my life. But it is what it is. Someone made out good on it.
The coursework itself was great and the electives weren't too bad. There was definitely some shady stuff going on in regards to housing. That's where all of my debt comes from. I paid tuition out of pocket.
I work in a field where you don't need a degree to be successful. I wish I knew that 16 years ago ... I'll be paying on those student loans for the rest of my life. But it is what it is. Someone made out good on it.
The coursework itself was great and the electives weren't too bad. There was definitely some shady stuff going on in regards to housing. That's where all of my debt comes from. I paid tuition out of pocket.
I had a black female college professor yell at the class…… “No matter how white the color of your skin is, you have Black Blood in your genes from your ancestors. “
I’m like OK…..
Others in class had a very good laugh.
I took this class for an easy A and raise my GPA.
I’m like OK…..
Others in class had a very good laugh.
I took this class for an easy A and raise my GPA.
Ha - South Carolina is way ahead of you. We have been doing that for more than a decade. Its funded by lottery money, and there are some reasonable restrictions - like maintain a B average and such. There are different tracks - you can get a 2 year degree for what amounts to free tuition and books at a community college, or you can take a technical track - auto mechanic, plumbing, etc. You can also start in high school and take some of the courses early which still leaves you 2 free years, or if you do a 4 year college in STEM you get extra scholarships, which again have requirements but there not all that restrictive - same thing - B average.
California is always so far behind. Ha Ha.
What's the other point of view?
Yeah it's not good. Many Universities have turned to looking for professors who check a certain box to teach classes instead of just their certifications, and you end up with people like this. I work with these idiots daily. Even the students are smart enough to be thinking what the heck does this have to do with the course we are taking? Some of them are really smart people, just have very strong ideas that they want everyone to know about, others you wonder how they tie their shoes in the morning.I had a black female college professor yell at the class…… “No matter how white the color of your skin is, you have Black Blood in your genes from your ancestors. “
I’m like OK…..
Others in class had a very good laugh.
I took this class for an easy A and raise my GPA.
Again, I ask how do you KNOW this is happening to a significant degree at Stanford or anywhere? Is this something you're being told is happening on TV? I ask, not because there isn't evidence that this happens sometimes at some universities, it certainly does to some degree, but I'm now back in graduate school and there are a significant number of recent college grads in my program and this way of thinking is not at all evident. I live in a university town and many of my friends teach at the college level in all different disciplines and in my conversations over years of beers most are not pushing any radical left agenda on me - some are definitely left of center and some are definitely right of center. Most make a concerted effort to not bring their personal/political opinions into the discussion.
It sickens me to no end that ANY speakers can be canceled by the student body if they do not like their message as I think college should be about hearing controversial and alternative POVs in addition to the "standard/traditional" view. My question is how do you know those courses don't represent the "controversial" or "alternative" view to what is otherwise a pretty standard/traditional education? I guess in the end my doubts rest on the fact that I speak to new grads all the time and I don't see brainwashing, my recent experience with professors has been anything but indoctrinating, and on the whole, my recent higher education experience has been pretty dry and neutral with respect to right vs left ideology being injected into the course work.
BTW...I mentioned songwriting earlier and can say I took a women's study course as well where I had the poop kicked out of me being one of the three males in the class of 50 females - it wasn't fun at first but I also didn't take offense and I kind of enjoyed the challenge of representing "men" but that kind of stuff has been happening for decades. It helped me with some POVs I didn't see prior to taking it but did not fundamentally change my POV on women. It did its job as far as exposing me to alternative POVs and no I wasn't forced to agree with any particular POV to do well.
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I see your point, but I have to disagree somewhat. It is not how much you make or if your work is cyclical; rather it is what you do with your money. Just my 2 cents...
Stamford?
Not so much that, IMO, as educating people to the understanding that not everyone will be rich, healthy, and happy. Some people are going to die early. Some are going to be poor. Some are going to have domestic violence. Stop pitying yourself and do the best you can with what you have. That's what's wrong, today, is everyone wants someone else to handle their issues for them "to make it fair".
Here are the starter courses I mentioned. All the buzzwords are there. Inequality, inclusion, climate change, the citizenship is apparently not defined by the country you were born in.
The human extinction is quite fascinating. Planting the seeds of fear comes to my mind first.
Reckon that was a typo/autocorrect…
One point that was made about schools like Stanford bears repeating - if you can get in, you can afford to go.
Yeah, they’re north of $75,000/year for room, board and tuition, but that is list price, and their financial aid is incredible. 80% of the kids going to Harvard receive Financial Aid. Further, if the parents make less than $80,000/year, financial aid covers 100% of the cost.
E.G. A young lady in the Harvard class of 2019 was born and raised on a Reservation in Wyoming. She was the first person in her family to go to college. Harvard paid for everything. I mean everything. Room, board, tuition, fees, books, spending money, and plane tickets to/from Casper at the beginning and end of each semester.
Her parents didn’t have to pay anything.
And? First, I'm not reading too much into those descriptions - what's the objection? Second, how do you know these aren't the classes presenting the "alternative" view to what is otherwise traditional education topics? Again, at least in my opinion, there seems to be a disconnect between what I'm told is happening in some universities and what my actual experience is with people teaching and attending.
I think the current human origin theory is that modern humans did originate in Africa and presumably had darker or "black" skin due to the intensity of the sun, so I don't think she's wrong?I had a black female college professor yell at the class…… “No matter how white the color of your skin is, you have Black Blood in your genes from your ancestors. “
I’m like OK…..
Others in class had a very good laugh.
I took this class for an easy A and raise my GPA.
Probably her main point was that whatever anyones skin colour is, we are all the same species from the same place...
That 105 class sounds interesting actually and on-par with the generic PolySci class I took in college a decade ago, and as a Warhammer 40k fan that end-of-humanity class sounds fun! But the class that's under the description seems like a boring rehash of highschool history class.
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