09 LX570 Gear oil

[burbguy82]

That's what I thought. IIRC circa '14 with the Gen 2.5 Tundra they started calling out the single weight? 75W? I think

I used the Amsoil MTF in a '15 Tundra and the owner claims it really does go into 4hi more readily (something I read online but didn't believe)

Even so, you hear plenty of anecdotal claims that a Toyota dealer will just pump 75W90 in there and call it good

So I have found with the Land Cruiser and LX570 fanboy group, there is a certain mystique about the vehicles. Although they are VERY well put together in comparison with lets say a Gm Suburban, they are not without some very expensive "faults", and they are in fact a conventional car, nothing different. On another forum: www.IH8MUD.com they refer to some of the special fluids as "Unicorn Tears". Being as the Toyota juice is $60 bucks a quart. Which is ridiculous.

I think after 2010, they switched to another fluid, which even Amsoil does not have a replacement for......Redline does however, 75w85 gear oil.

In short, there is a chain shafts bearing gears and seals, not unlike any other Tcase. Mine calls for GL5 75w90.

I change the stuff regulaly anyway so I dont really sweat the brand.......but if I am not using a regular brand like M1 or Valvoline, i would much rather give my money to HPL than Toyota.

AHC fluid is a different story of course, although i wonder why some do not make an equivalent.

 

[burbguy82]

For T-case: https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-75w-90-manual-transmission-transaxle-gear-lube-mtg/?zo=515729
Or you could use the lighter MTF as I do in my Tacoma

For differentials: https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-severe-gear-75w-90-100-synthetic-gear-lube-svg/?zo=515729
or you could used the 75W-110 rear and 75W-90 front as I do in my Tacoma

I was thinking on 75w110. Mine is full time AWD selectable and lockable, so I will likely use the same juice in front and rear. might be easier to use one weight in case I forget how to add when i order the juice. Plan on 50k OCI on them there cases.

I got a little mileage before I need to do those services, thankfully.

Had a coil die the other day, changing them all today.

 

[burbguy82]

pretty cool video on gears....

 

[02SE]

what year is your land cruiser?

I don't have a Landcruiser 200. Although I would if I could buy one with the 1VD-FTV Diesel. I did have an FZJ80 back in the 90's.

We currently have a 5th gen 4Runner, which was built on the same assembly line in Tahara Japan.

As for the later spec of 75w in the T-case: The T-case itself didn't change. Toyota just speced lower viscosity oils for a very slight improvement in their CAFE numbers.

 

[D60]

I don't have a Landcruiser 200. Although I would if I could buy one with the 1VD-FTV Diesel. I did have an FZJ80 back in the 90's.

We currently have a 5th gen 4Runner, which was built on the same assembly line in Tahara Japan.

As for the later spec of 75w in the T-case: The T-case itself didn't change. Toyota just speced lower viscosity oils for a very slight improvement in their CAFE numbers.

I also wondered this, too: I was skeptical anything in the t-case actually changed

 

[burbguy82]

Toyota just speced lower viscosity oils for a very slight improvement in their CAFE numbers.

I can believe that. Redline specifically states "This product is not designed for use in most manual transmissions or transaxles with synchronizers". This might back up your claim for sure.

We currently have a 5th gen 4Runner, which was built on the same assembly line in Tahara Japan.

Nice. Of course, there is almost no parts interchangeability in the driveline between the two. I thought on one of those, but in was a bit too small feeling inside.

 

[D60]

So I have found with the Land Cruiser and LX570 fanboy group, there is a certain mystique about the vehicles. Although they are VERY well put together in comparison with lets say a Gm Suburban, they are not without some very expensive "faults", and they are in fact a conventional car, nothing different. On another forum: www.IH8MUD.com they refer to some of the special fluids as "Unicorn Tears". Being as the Toyota juice is $60 bucks a quart. Which is ridiculous.

I think after 2010, they switched to another fluid, which even Amsoil does not have a replacement for......Redline does however, 75w85 gear oil.

In short, there is a chain shafts bearing gears and seals, not unlike any other Tcase. Mine calls for GL5 75w90.

I change the stuff regulaly anyway so I dont really sweat the brand.......but if I am not using a regular brand like M1 or Valvoline, i would much rather give my money to HPL than Toyota.

AHC fluid is a different story of course, although i wonder why some do not make an equivalent.

Sure. Again, it doesn't necessarily need to say 75-85 to have suitable viscosity and do the job. I would NOT run it in the diffs but the t-cases like the Amsoil Syncromesh 5W-30
https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-5w-30-manual-synchromesh-transmission-fluid-mtf/

I know you know this, but t-case fluid primarily provides splash lube and lubricity between shift fork pads and steel collars. Very different than the shear in ring and pinions. Sure, you've got planetaries but those only come into play in low range.

For Toy diffs I've learned don't use the M1 gear oil as their FM seems to do little for the Toy LSDs (if equipped). Although even with, say, Valvoline, I'd probably add a few more ounces of additional FM. That's just me, I've become a but superstitious about M1 + Toyota (excluding engine oil)

 

[burbguy82]

For Toy diffs I've learned don't use the M1 gear oil as their FM seems to do little for the Toy LSDs (if equipped). Although even with, say, Valvoline, I'd probably add a few more ounces of additional FM. That's just me, I've become a but superstitious about M1 + Toyota (excluding engine oil)

That is very good information. Something like Slip Lock? or the stuff you can get at the autoparts store? Interesting.

I know you know this, but t-case fluid primarily provides splash lube and lubricity between shift fork pads and steel collars.

I do, and most have a pump, so you dont want something like honey.

 

[drtyler]

That is very good information. Something like Slip Lock? or the stuff you can get at the autoparts store? Interesting.

I do, and most have a pump, so you dont want something like honey.

Does LX570 have traditional LSD or the auto-LSD that is computer manipulated? If the latter, you don’t need additives.

 

[drtyler]

I also wondered this, too: I was skeptical anything in the t-case actually changed

On the Tundras, the transfer case did change beginning 2014 model year.

 

[D60]

That is very good information. Something like Slip Lock? or the stuff you can get at the autoparts store? Interesting.

I do, and most have a pump, so you dont want something like honey.

I've seen t-cases with destroyed or clogged pumps or disconnected lines (from the pickup to the pump) that looked like they were running that way for a LONG time.

Obviously it varies by specific model but I think 90% of the part-time, driver-selectable t-cases would survive most of their expected lifetime on splash lube alone. That said, this is just random musing and I'd always seek to make sure the pump is working correctly!

As for the FM in LSDs, some swear by a particular brand but I use whatever you can get at your FLAPS; O'Reilly stocks a Redline and a TransX -- and maybe more. For your own vehicle you can add the prescribed amount and see. For customers I just add a few extra ounces -- one comeback for chatter was enough for me (that was M1)

A lot of the Taco guys swear by good ol' dino 80W90 Valvoline and a full bottle of your favorite FM. But as always it's the internet and opinions are like __________

 

[drtyler]

I've seen t-cases with destroyed or clogged pumps or disconnected lines (from the pickup to the pump) that looked like they were running that way for a LONG time.

Obviously it varies by specific model but I think 90% of the part-time, driver-selectable t-cases would survive most of their expected lifetime on splash lube alone. That said, this is just random musing and I'd always seek to make sure the pump is working correctly!

As for the FM in LSDs, some swear by a particular brand but I use whatever you can get at your FLAPS; O'Reilly stocks a Redline and a TransX -- and maybe more. For your own vehicle you can add the prescribed amount and see. For customers I just add a few extra ounces -- one comeback for chatter was enough for me (that was M1)

A lot of the Taco guys swear by good ol' dino 80W90 Valvoline and a full bottle of your favorite FM. But as always it's the internet and opinions are like __________

Why does he need FM in these differentials? Does the LX570 have a traditional clutch style LSD that would require the FM? I am fairly certain the diffs are open and the limited slip function comes from the computer/abs/wheel sensors.

 

[GSCJR]

good ol' dino 80W90

All I've ever used for over 15 years now; Highlander and now RX. The FM comes already added too, I use QS.

 

[burbguy82]

Does LX570 have traditional LSD or the auto-LSD that is computer manipulated? If the latter, you don’t need additives.

to my knowledge, no

 

[02SE]

Nice. Of course, there is almost no parts interchangeability in the driveline between the two. I thought on one of those, but in was a bit too small feeling inside.

Yes, very little parts interchangeability between a 5th gen 4Runner, and 200 series Landcruiser/ LX570. Only things like drain plugs, etc.

The 5th gen 4Runner is most closely related to the Landcruiser Prado, and Lexus GX460.

But all were made at the Tahara plant.