07-09 5.3 DOD Delete Oil Pump

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I have been looking up DOD deletes for Gen IV LS and have seen recommendations on a new oil pump. From what I have gathered the oil pump on a DoD engine is higher volume due to all of the DoD passages and what not. Is there any harm in running a current DoD engine's oil pump and not replacing it with a LS6?

Also, I have seen some hammer in caps into the ports in the valley of the engine. Is this something you should do in conjunction with the L92 valley cover? Or is the L92 valley cover with the O-Ringed Blockoff ports just fine enough?

Is the port near the back of the L92 valley cover for the oil pressure sensor?

Thanks.
 
I also want to delete the AFM in my 5.3.. I don't think the stronger oil pump will be a problem.. but not 100%
What DOD delete kit are you getting? are you doing it yourself?
 
I have been working on a spreadsheet piecing out every part I want. I can share that. I am not getting any specific delete kit from any company. I am finding that individual parts from summit and rock auto is cheaper.
I will be using an in good shape stock Gen III 5.3 LM7 3-bolt cam that I have.
 
I just did one for a friend in a 2007 Suburban. She had a DOD lifter rotate in the tray and wipe out the cam and lifter. My method was as follows:

I used the stock pump in the LMG 5.3 that I worked on. Pressure was fine for non AFM use. L92 pump is higher flow. LS6 pump is listed as standard flow, at least according to Summit. She has 2k miles on it now, no issues.

I did not hammer caps into the risers. Did not want to chance creating debris. The L92 cover on my L92 engine was fully functional for 183k miles before I pulled it for preventative top end work. I just ran the L92 cover on the LMG. OEM GM parts of course.

The port on the back of the L92 valley cover is indeed for the oil pressure sensor.

I used a non-AFM 5.3 cam, part number 12689035

Lots of Chinesium lifters and associated parts out there. I do not recommend any of those. You can save a few $ using Melling lifters made in USA, but YMMV.

I used HP Tuners to disable the AFM in the ECM and perform some minor tweaks to the tune. She reports similar MPG after the delete. 90% in town driving. 87 octane exclusively.
 
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I just did one for a friend in a 2007 Suburban. She had a DOD lifter rotate in the tray and wipe out the cam and lifter. My method was as follows:

I used the stock pump in the LMG 5.3 that I worked on. Pressure was fine for non AFM use. L92 pump is higher flow. LS6 pump is listed as standard flow, at least according to Summit. She has 2k miles on it now, no issues.

I did not hammer caps into the risers. Did not want to chance creating debris. The L92 cover on my L92 engine was fully functional for 183k miles before I pulled it for preventative top end work. I just ran the L92 cover on the LMG. OEM GM parts of course.

The port on the back of the L92 valley cover is indeed for the oil pressure sensor.

I used a non-AFM 5.3 cam, part number 12689035

Lots of Chinesium lifters and associated parts out there. I do not recommend any of those. You can save a few $ using Melling lifters made in USA, but YMMV.

I used HP Tuners to disable the AFM in the ECM and perform some minor tweaks to the tune. She reports similar MPG after the delete. 90% in town driving. 87 octane exclusively.
Excellent, thank you for the info! All great info. So the LMG with a L92 valley cover is essentially how a L92 always is? So if that's 183k, that is more than fine!
 
Put a new standard volume oil pump in it, You need to remove the Oil Pan & block the AFM Relief Valve anyway (A 1/4" NPT Plug works well).
Though the failure rate is pretty low.....The Regulator Valve in the Oil Pump can stick at high mileage, Kind of foolish not to replace the pump.

I have good success running LS3 Valley Covers with a built in PCV Orifice & Oil Separator on truck engines further reducing oil consumption, You have to route a 3/8" Oil Rated hose to the PCV vacuum source at the Intake Manifold.
 
Excellent, thank you for the info! All great info. So the LMG with a L92 valley cover is essentially how a L92 always is? So if that's 183k, that is more than fine!
Yep. My L92 had open ports in the risers. That motor is at 203k on the bottom end, with 20k on new heads. I did the job because I had one lifter that would bleed down and tick on cold start. I put in a complete OEM timing set, new L92 oil pump, LS7 lifters, new 821 casting heads, new front cover with cam actuator and sensors.

Clinebarger mentioned one thing I forgot. Block off the oil regulator valve in the pan. No need to spray oil in the pan and drop pressure unnecessairly.

Also make sure you have the updated driver's side valve cover. The baffles in the new cover reduce oil ingestion through the PCV greatly. Look for a square hole in the baffle plate. That is the updated unit.
 
I have been working on a spreadsheet piecing out every part I want. I can share that. I am not getting any specific delete kit from any company. I am finding that individual parts from summit and rock auto is cheaper.
I will be using an in good shape stock Gen III 5.3 LM7 3-bolt cam that I have.
Yes please share! I want to remove the AFM as I may have a lifter tick and don't want any failures. Though I'm only at 75K miles
I just did one for a friend in a 2007 Suburban.
How difficult was the job? and thank you for all the info!

Also, would there be any benefit to installing a larger CAM? I haven't looked into it, but if possible and not too much extra labor I would want to install a small supercharger but that may be too complicated and unnecessary. (have to research it and see what others have done).

I definitely need to remove the AFM lifters... For the 5 years I have been driving in Manuel 5 mode to avoid cylinder deactivation. I'll be looking into a tuner soon rather than going with a Range unit.
 
How difficult was the job? and thank you for all the info!

Also, would there be any benefit to installing a larger CAM? I haven't looked into it, but if possible and not too much extra labor I would want to install a small supercharger but that may be too complicated and unnecessary. (have to research it and see what others have done).

I definitely need to remove the AFM lifters... For the 5 years I have been driving in Manuel 5 mode to avoid cylinder deactivation. I'll be looking into a tuner soon rather than going with a Range unit.
It's hard to convey difficulty without understanding your capabilities and tool availability. I started wrenching on stuff and learning from my dad around 6 or 7 years old. I'm 43 now, and I work on Hydroelectric generation and pumping facilities. It was fairly easy for me, and I did it in about a week in the evenings after getting home from work. I do have Techangle torque wrenches to assist with all of the TTY fasteners. It was also the third time I performed this work. My personal L92 was first, I did the left bank on another friend's Tahoe (twice) when an afm lifter stuck on him and I couldn't get it released. He brought me four Chinese AFM lifters the first time, and only one of them actually pumped up and passed oil down the pushrod. The second time I bought all of the parts, and went with OEM lifters to insure I wouldn't do it a third time.

I have seen information that the timing chain is rated to roughly 200k miles. I always replace the timing set if the vehicle is a keeper, and both heads are off. That being the case, it is only a few more bolts to get the cam out. Of course the radiator will need to be removed for cam clearance, but that is only a couple of lines and four bolts. You need a puller to remove the lower sprocket. I use the old sprocket, a large washer, and the crank pulley installer to press the new one on. There can be a huge benefit to instaling a larger cam, but for proper driveability and maximum performance it will need to be tuned. You will need an alignment tool to center the front cover with the crank so it will seal with the dampener. There is a trick to do it by leaving the bolts loose, and driving on the dampener to center the cover. I suggest spending some time on youtube looking at some of these operations prior to attempting them. LS specific tools I purchased are a simple flywheel locking tool, dampener puller, dampener installer, and a long thread chaser from ARP to clean the head bolt holes.

I started out with a Diablosport tuner on my L92 Denali. Even stock I had the occasional high load low RPM detonation around town. It was worse with the Diablosport, so I paid for a Lew Tune. Went back and forth with Lew for a month or so, and the detonation problem was way worse. This was on 91 octane and octane boost added to the tank. I replaced the heads to verify exactly how much carbon was in the cylinders, and just for peace of mind as this is the road trip vehicle. There was no real carbon buildup, and no change in the detonation after the work. I bought HP Tuners and read out the LewTune from the ECM. The timing was boosted across the high octane map, and the knock retard was disabled. This was the reason for the detonation. I tuned it myself and the results were incredible. There is alot to be found in tuning the trans, especially on the 6L80E. I recommend finding a reputable tuner in your area and trying them out. Canned tunes and remote tuning via email is a mixed bag at best.

Expect to be torn down like this:

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