03 Honda CR-V EX battery

[f355spider]

Also, Walmart Everstart flooded batteries sold in Walmarts in Western USA... Are they East Penn or Clarios/Johnson?

I answered this above...Clarios, from one of two Korean manufacturers...there are a couple and the only way to know is to go to the store, and decipher the stamping on the side of the battery in question. There are threads here you can search for the manufacturers and their codes. But who cares? Would it impact your decision?

 

[Carlostrece]

I answered this above...Clarios, from one of two Korean manufacturers...there are a couple and the only way to know is to go to the store, and decipher the stamping on the side of the battery in question. There are threads here you can search for the manufacturers and their codes. But who cares? Would it impact your decision?

Is the a Clarios battery for $80 worth buying from Walmart, or should I get the East Penn from Oreilly even though it'd cost me $120? Both have identical electric specs.

 

[D1dad]

Gotcha. My son has the same issue at his condo. He’s looking at some sort of solar setup which should be easy, but he has a Nissan Titan so the cigarette lighter is DOA when the keys off. If your charging system puts out a consistent 13.5 volts, then an agm would be a good investment. If it’s like the system on most new cars and throttles back to get you an extra 1/100th mpg, then the battery will constantly be in a state of discharge. Agms, don’t like that. My wife’s car came with an agm and we started with a fully charged battery, drove to 18 hrs to New Jersey and back, and the state of charge was 69%.

 

[GSCJR]

If terminal position is the issue with a Group 34, there is always the Group 34R with reversed terminal positions.

True, but I'm not sure how commonly available they are in an R variant.

 

[Carlostrece]

True, but I'm not sure how commonly available they are in an R variant.

I thought of that last night. So I checked Oreilly and Walmart to see if they have 34R. They have a few 34R models, but they're very expensive AGM by Odyssey, Optima, and XS.

Oreilly and Walmart have no 34R flooded batteries. Also no 34R affordable batteries.

So 34R is impracticle for me because I want an affordable, good, flooded battery.

It's a shame though because a 34R would have fit very well, IMO. Probably fit better than 24R.

 

[f355spider]

True, but I'm not sure how commonly available they are in an R variant.

Pretty easy to find...Less common that some, but I've owned a few cars that used them and never had an issue picking one up.

 

[f355spider]

I thought of that last night. So I checked Oreilly and Walmart to see if they have 34R. They have a few 34R models, but they're very expensive AGM by Odyssey, Optima, and XS.

Oreilly and Walmart have no 34R flooded batteries. Also no 34R affordable batteries.

So 34R is impracticle for me because I want an affordable, good, flooded battery.

It's a shame though because a 34R would have fit very well, IMO. Probably fit better than 24R.

Interstate and East Penn make them too...but yes, a 34R will not be an inexpensive option.

 

[Wheel366]

You can get an Odyssey from Napa and use this code below for 20% off. Might make it worth the price.

 

[f355spider]

You can get an Odyssey from Napa and use this code below for 20% off. Might make it worth the price.

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He's not buying an Odyssey...lol. It's clear from his posts he is targeting around $100 or under if possible.
To quote: "I want an affordable, good, flooded battery."
He also has a lot of time on his hands, so guaranteed he will look it up and report what the net cost would be anyway...
I did it for him...around $315.09 before WA State sales tax.

https://www.napaonline.com/en/search?text=24f&referer=v2

 

[Carlostrece]

Interstate and East Penn make them too...but yes, a 34R will not be an inexpensive option.

In my town no one stocks a 34R Interstate, Clarios, or East Penn. Also no 34R flooded batteries in stock anywhere locally. Just a few crazy expensive 34R AGM made by Odyssey, Optima, and XS are available locally.

I live in a small town. Here 34R batteries are hard to find, expensive, unicorns. In my 57 years I'd never even heard of a 34R until yesterday. Now I've finally heard of 34R, but I've still never seen a flooded 34R after 3 days of battery shopping locally online and lcally in-store in-person. A flooded 34R doesn't exist in my town, and they want a body part for an AGM 34R.

 

[Carlostrece]

You can get an Odyssey from Napa and use this code below for 20% off. Might make it worth the price.

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20% off an Odyssey from NAPA would still mean that I had to pay 80% of a bazillion dollars.

 

[Carlostrece]

He's not buying an Odyssey...lol. It's clear from his posts he is targeting around $100 or under if possible.
To quote: "I want an affordable, good, flooded battery."
He also has a lot of time on his hands, so guaranteed he will look it up and report what the net cost would be anyway...

I did it for him...around $315.09 before WA State sales tax.

https://www.napaonline.com/en/search?text=24f&referer=v2

$315 is what I call a bazillion dollars for a battery, especially when I'm doing charity work for a poor neighbor's CRV.

 

[Wheel366]

For charity work, I would put in the cheapest Walmart battery and NOT do the battery conversion.

 

[Carlostrece]

Now I need to convince to go for one 30 min highway drive per week to keep it charged since she parks outdoors where there's no place to plug in a charger.

Or convince her to clean out her single car garage enough so she can park in it and plug into the charger I already (previously) bought her. Women!

 

[Carlostrece]

For charity work, I would put in the cheapest Walmart battery and NOT do the battery conversion.

It's cheaper (for parts) to do the conversion/upgrade. That's why people love this conversion. It saves money while also resulting in a bigger better battery.

By doing the upgrade, I'm $20 less into it for parts after buying a new Honda Odyssey battery tray ($30 from local Honda dealer) and bigger 24F flooded battery $120 Oreilly Superstart (East Penn). So conversion parts cost me total $140 total (before sales tax).

A new 51R battery with satisfactory specs would have to be a premium flood 51R with 500 CCA to be adequate in WA state climate in winter for a car parked outdoors. A premium flooded 51R is $150 from Walmart, $162 from Honda dealership, or $214 from Oreilly. Then I'd still have a puny 51R battery that's (barely) adequate.

The conversion gives me 17% increase in CCA, and 35% increase in RC, and $20 savings in parts. All future times she needs a new battery will be $50+ in savings every time.

Also, an economy grade 24F (which is what I bought) has more space between the plates than a premium 51R does. More spaces means it'll last years longer before corrosion eventually shorts it out.

I have no regrets about upgrading/converting to 24F East Penn with 585 CCA.

 

[f355spider]

It's cheaper (for parts) to do the conversion. That's why people love this conversion. It saves money while also resulting in a bigger better battery.

By doing the upgrade, I'm $20 less into it for parts after buying a new Honda Odyssey battery tray ($30 from local Honda dealer) and bigger 24F flooded battery $100 to $120 depending on whether I buy battery from Walmart Everstart (Clarios in my Westcoast town) or Oreilly Superstart (East Penn). So total $120 or $140 (before sales tax).

A new 51R battery with satisfactory specs would have to be a premium flood 51R. That's $162 from Honda dealership or $214 from Oreilly and then I'd still have a puny battery that's barely adequate. I did not check Walmart price for a premium flooded 51R.

So I have no regrets about upgrading/converting to 24F.

I'd pocket the difference and go with WalMart. The battery will be a Clarios made by Delkor from Korea. They oem to most of the Korean car makers and some Japanese as well. They are fine.
https://www.clarios.com/brands/delkor Click on the link...more research for you...you can also go to the Delkor website in Korea:
https://www.delkor.com/kr or Australia if you prefer English: https://www.delkor.com/au/home

Korean cars are ubiquitous in North America and I have never heard of battery life issues with the oem batteries in them.

 

[Carlostrece]

I'd pocket the difference and go with WalMart. The battery will be a Clarios made by Delkor from Korea. They oem to most of the Korean car makers and some Japanese as well. They are fine.
https://www.clarios.com/brands/delkor Click on the link...more research for you...you can also go to the Delkor website in Korea:
https://www.delkor.com/kr or Australia if you prefer English: https://www.delkor.com/au/home

Korean cars are ubiquitous in North America and I have never heard of battery life issues with the oem batteries in them.

You previously talked me out of buying a Walmart Everstart (Clarios). I'm on the Westcoast. It would have been a Clarios at my local Walmart. So I bought an Oreilly Superstart (East Penn) earlier today 6 or 7 hours ago.

I would have bought a Walmart Everstart Clarios if you had earlier said it's fine, but earlier you and others made it sound unattractive to buy the Clarios. So I acted ok that advice 6 or 7 hours ago. I needed to buy a battery today.

I'm happy. I bought a good East Penn battery, avoided going to Walmart, and I already had other business at Oreilly. So I already had to go to Oreilly.

Thank you, @Nukeman7, and everyone else for advice. It was helpful. I followed your advice. At least the earlier advice. I'd already made my purchase before the latest advice was received.

It's all good!

 

[Wheel366]

Also, an economy grade 24F (which is what I bought) has more space between the plates than a premium 51R does. More spaces means it'll last years longer before corrosion eventually shorts it out.

There is no guarantee that the 24F will last longer due to having more space between the plates. My friend had a crv with a 51r and that battery lasted 8 years. Regular flooded Walmart Plus. No additional parts to buy like a tray. He just kept it charged a few times a year.

I have had Interstate batteries 5+ years and some last 2 years. I had Optima Redtops last 4 years and then less than 1 year. My CRV batteries lasted I believe 5 years each. That was the OEM and then Honda replacement. No additional charging. The new one gets charged periodically to see if it will last longer. My wife's car is 12 years old and on it's third battery.

The OEM batter in my Legacy lasted 6 months and the replacement lasted 6.5 years before I replaced it due to leaking. I replaced with a 24F Odyssey because I couldn't get an 35 at the time and Subaru was replacing the stock 35 with a 24F from what info I could gather. The battery in my Impreza was 5.5 years old before I replaced it due to age.

But I can tell that you think bigger is better and if that is what you want to do, who I am to tell you NOT to do it. If it makes you feel better at night, so be it.

 

[Carlostrece]

There is no guarantee that the 24F will last longer due to having more space between the plates. My friend had a crv with a 51r and that battery lasted 8 years. Regular flooded Walmart Plus. No additional parts to buy like a tray. He just kept it charged a few times a year.

I have had Interstate batteries 5+ years and some last 2 years. I had Optima Redtops last 4 years and then less than 1 year. My CRV batteries lasted I believe 5 years each. That was the OEM and then Honda replacement. No additional charging. The new one gets charged periodically to see if it will last longer. My wife's car is 12 years old and on it's third battery.

The OEM batter in my Legacy lasted 6 months and the replacement lasted 6.5 years before I replaced it due to leaking. I replaced with a 24F Odyssey because I couldn't get an 35 at the time and Subaru was replacing the stock 35 with a 24F from what info I could gather. The battery in my Impreza was 5.5 years old before I replaced it due to age.

But I can tell that you think bigger is better and if that is what you want to do, who I am to tell you NOT to do it. If it makes you feel better at night, so be it.

Bigger and more powerful does make me feel better, especially when it saves money.

An economy grade 24F is $50 cheaper and 17-35% more powerful than a premium grade 51R.

The Honda Odyssey battery tray needed to do the upgrade only cost me $30 and that's a one time cost. I'm still $20 ahead on part cost at the time of conversion. At every future battery purchase I'll be $50 ahead. That's being conservative. I might be $70 ahead at each future battery purchase.

This upgrade saves money as well as increases performance. What's not to like?

 

[f355spider]

You previously talked me out of buying a Walmart Everstart (Clarios). I'm on the Westcoast. It would have been a Clarios at my local Walmart. So I bought an Oreilly Superstart (East Penn) earlier today 6 or 7 hours ago.

I would have bought a Walmart Everstart Clarios if you had earlier said it's fine, but earlier you and others made it sound unattractive to buy the Clarios. So I acted ok that advice 6 or 7 hours ago. I needed to buy a battery today.

Please show me where I talked you out of a WalMart battery...

I posted previously I had no issues with Walmart batteries. In other threads I have stated my last four purchases were Walmart batteries.