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#4633515 - 01/13/18 10:47 AM Want to drive the safest car on the planet?
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#4633518 - 01/13/18 10:50 AM Re: Want to drive the safest car on the planet? [Re: OneEyeJack]
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It happens to be a Volvo?

Gee, who would've guessed...

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#4633522 - 01/13/18 10:53 AM Re: Want to drive the safest car on the planet? [Re: OneEyeJack]
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Letís put it up against an F-250.

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#4633528 - 01/13/18 10:58 AM Re: Want to drive the safest car on the planet? [Re: Snagglefoot]
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Originally Posted By: Snagglefoot
Letís put it up against an F-250.

SF


The immovable concrete barrier is a bit more of an obstacle than an F-250.

If there's any doubt about crashing a bigger vehicle into a smaller one check this...

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#4633538 - 01/13/18 11:05 AM Re: Want to drive the safest car on the planet? [Re: OneEyeJack]
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Volvo aims to completely eliminate serious injury or death in any of its new cars by 2020


Seems a little optimistic.
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#4633541 - 01/13/18 11:09 AM Re: Want to drive the safest car on the planet? [Re: OneEyeJack]
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Older heavy cars from years gone by do not do well..
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#4633543 - 01/13/18 11:10 AM Re: Want to drive the safest car on the planet? [Re: OneEyeJack]
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Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack


nice post, and a safe car .
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#4633545 - 01/13/18 11:13 AM Re: Want to drive the safest car on the planet? [Re: OneEyeJack]
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Ratings by committee are one thing. Data is another.

While I have no doubt that Volvo is committed to making some of the safest cars on the roads, actual data doesn't support that a Volvo is significantly safer than many other cars on the road. Look at the data on pg 2 of this IIHS report.

http://www.iihs.org/externaldata/srdata/docs/sr5203.pdf

Then look on page 5 in the midsize Luxury SUV section to find the Volvo XC60. If I understand correctly, this is data for MY 2012 thru 2014 cars and trucks.

Volvo's goal of of no deaths in a Vovlo by 2020 is very admirable. But clearly, they have a way to go still.


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#4633562 - 01/13/18 11:39 AM Re: Want to drive the safest car on the planet? [Re: OneEyeJack]
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Probably has a Takata airbag in it. LOL
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#4633569 - 01/13/18 11:48 AM Re: Want to drive the safest car on the planet? [Re: BHopkins]
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Registered: 11/30/05
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Originally Posted By: BHopkins
Ratings by committee are one thing. Data is another.

While I have no doubt that Volvo is committed to making some of the safest cars on the roads, actual data doesn't support that a Volvo is significantly safer than many other cars on the road. Look at the data on pg 2 of this IIHS report.

http://www.iihs.org/externaldata/srdata/docs/sr5203.pdf

Then look on page 5 in the midsize Luxury SUV section to find the Volvo XC60. If I understand correctly, this is data for MY 2012 thru 2014 cars and trucks.

Volvo's goal of of no deaths in a Vovlo by 2020 is very admirable. But clearly, they have a way to go still.





Interesting....some of those stats are not the same as their crash tests would indicate.

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#4633571 - 01/13/18 11:52 AM Re: Want to drive the safest car on the planet? [Re: OneEyeJack]
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BMW built some sturdy cars back in the pre-airbag era. Cars built for US had side beams in the doors and real clunky looking 5 MPH bumpers. The monoque chassis/body had crush zones that shoved the engine underneath the cabin. As well as a transverse bulkhead behind rear seat that was the anvil for the trunk to fold into. About the only way to die in an E28 is not wear the belt and get ejected. The cabin is very stout. Airbags are helpful. I'm sure, but maintaining cabin integrity is key too. Race cars don't use airbags and drivers walk away from some pretty terrible crashes...
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#4633577 - 01/13/18 12:01 PM Re: Want to drive the safest car on the planet? [Re: andyd]
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Originally Posted By: andyd
BMW built some sturdy cars back in the pre-airbag era. Cars built for US had side beams in the doors and real clunky looking 5 MPH bumpers. The monoque chassis/body had crush zones that shoved the engine underneath the cabin. As well as a transverse bulkhead behind rear seat that was the anvil for the trunk to fold into. About the only way to die in an E28 is not wear the belt and get ejected. The cabin is very stout. Airbags are helpful. I'm sure, but maintaining cabin integrity is key too. Race cars don't use airbags and drivers walk away from some pretty terrible crashes...


Good points. The hand-wringing bed wetters went nuts when I mentioned that my son's first car was going to be a 1975 2002. The thing was, I had installed new belts- and in 1975 the US standards mandated survivability of a belted driver in a 35 mph barrier crash.
Today the standards require survivability of an unrestrained driver- which I believe is an unwarranted interference with the Law of Natural Selection...
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#4633580 - 01/13/18 12:03 PM Re: Want to drive the safest car on the planet? [Re: andyd]
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Originally Posted By: andyd
Race cars don't use airbags and drivers walk away from some pretty terrible crashes...


I think those things on their heads called crash helmets perform that function.
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#4633591 - 01/13/18 12:17 PM Re: Want to drive the safest car on the planet? [Re: jeepman3071]
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Originally Posted By: jeepman3071
Probably has a Takata airbag in it. LOL


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#4633598 - 01/13/18 12:26 PM Re: Want to drive the safest car on the planet? [Re: CharlieBauer]
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Originally Posted By: CharlieBauer
Originally Posted By: andyd
Race cars don't use airbags and drivers walk away from some pretty terrible crashes...


I think those things on their heads called crash helmets perform that function.
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