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540 Rat oil tests #3854023
09/14/15 06:27 PM
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I did a search as not to repost. Has any one read this web page? Any opinions? 540 rat


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2
Re: 540 Rat oil tests [Re: CT8] #3854034
09/14/15 06:36 PM
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Ummm... yeah, it's a massive repost. Please not again. smile


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Re: 540 Rat oil tests [Re: CT8] #3854054
09/14/15 07:01 PM
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I can't believe you actually did a search.


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Re: 540 Rat oil tests [Re: CT8] #3854055
09/14/15 07:04 PM
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Valvoline MaxLife is awesome juice!


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Re: 540 Rat oil tests [Re: CT8] #3854066
09/14/15 07:15 PM
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What's interesting is that obviously 540 RAT has some sort of education beyond high school, has the money and wherewithal to source lots of different oils and to test them and record the results of the testing.

And at the end he say's this:

Originally Posted By: 540RAT
I'll say it for the millionth time, my testing does not intend to duplicate what happens inside an engine. It is intended to test one oil against another in an accurate and repeatable way. That way you can see how they compare head to head. An oil that tests well in my testing will protect an engine better than an oil that tests poorly.


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Re: 540 Rat oil tests [Re: CT8] #3854075
09/14/15 07:19 PM
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Quote:
Im a Mechanical Engineer. Mechanical Design Engineering is what I do for a living. And a Mechanical Engineer is clearly the most qualified Engineer to test motor oil that was formulated by Chemical Engineers, for wear protection capability between mechanical components under load.


It only goes downhill from here......


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Re: 540 Rat oil tests [Re: Nate1979] #3854176
09/14/15 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: Nate1979
I can't believe you actually did a search.
I did ! and couldn't find it on BITOG site search but I found a link after the fact on Google and notified the moderator to delete the post. So far no delete.


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Re: 540 Rat oil tests [Re: CT8] #3854181
09/14/15 09:14 PM
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I think the whole thing is horse hockey.



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Re: 540 Rat oil tests [Re: CT8] #3854192
09/14/15 09:25 PM
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Anyone who shims their valve springs to .080" of coil bind deserves to lose a lobe.
From Sparks, Nevada eh?
Used a modified worn-out slot machine for testing?

Re: 540 Rat oil tests [Re: CT8] #3854262
09/14/15 10:51 PM
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So. Cal
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What is so wrong about this rat540 test? Not testing motor oils in motors? LOL


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Re: 540 Rat oil tests [Re: CT8] #3854292
09/15/15 12:14 AM
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Las Vegas, NV
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I don't think I understand what his test even is. I mean he is testing the properties of the oils in a certain way, but how that translates to internal combustion engines I have no idea.


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Re: 540 Rat oil tests [Re: Leonardo629] #3854327
09/15/15 01:56 AM
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Saskatoon canada
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Originally Posted By: Leonardo629
What is so wrong about this rat540 test? Not testing motor oils in motors? LOL


He's using a one armed bandit with cold oil. None of which represents how an oil behaves in an internal combustion engine. Pert plus scores very high using this testing protocol,bet it keeps engines clean too(sarcasm)

This nonsense test gets posted at least once a month since I've been a member,and it gets discredited each time.
There is a reason oil manufacturers use real engines in their test beds,because it's the only accurate way to test a formulation.


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Re: 540 Rat oil tests [Re: Torrid] #3854328
09/15/15 01:57 AM
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Saskatoon canada
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Originally Posted By: Torrid
I don't think I understand what his test even is. I mean he is testing the properties of the oils in a certain way, but how that translates to internal combustion engines I have no idea.


Exactly. It has nothing in common with an ICE,and therefore is nothing more than an effort in futility.


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Re: 540 Rat oil tests [Re: CT8] #3854340
09/15/15 03:38 AM
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Malaysia
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It appears to me the tests is more about AW additives performance only ...... which constitutes a

minor component of oil properties in totalities.

Re: 540 Rat oil tests [Re: CT8] #3854344
09/15/15 03:58 AM
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If I had one of those test rigs and wanted to stop it wearing out, I'd pick the best oil (or additive) on Rat's list.

That's all the test tells you, is what wears Rat's test rig out the quickest/slowest.

Nothing really about engines (oh, and I'm an engineer too)

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