1944 diesel boat 671 oil filters

[Seattle]

I have a trawler converted from a picket boat built by Navy in 1944. Twin 671's model 64HN9. I'm told they no longer make oil filters. Need to find stockpiled filters or something else I can use. Any ideas.

Thanks, Seattle

 

[Chris142]

Maybe try some of the Antique truck forums. Maybe somebody has some in their stash.

http://forums.aths.org/instantforum414/

http://bigmacktrucks.com/

 

[440Magnum]

Id call or contact oil filter suppliers directly. Detroit Diesels are about the best aftermarket-supported engine ever made, I can't believe that no one makes either a filter, or an adapter to run a more modern filter. Even the original inline 6-71 like yours is still pretty widely used. I did a little googling to find promising links, but I didn't follow up on any:


http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/index.asp

http://www.go2marine.com/category.do?no=17153

http://2cycle.mtu-online.com/index.php/products/maintentance

 

[caravanmike]

we have no problem getting detroit diesel filter at my work! we use napa wix and hastings! fyi

is it a spin on or a cartridge?

 

[Gary Allan]

I imagine it's a cartridge ..

..either of these look familiar?

This is allegedly all that Donaldson offers for the 6-71 DD. No notation for model number or whatever

Qty Item Number Qty Per Equipment Item Description OEM Part Number Catalog Note


P554071 COOLANT SPIN-ON






P550540 FUEL CARTRIDGE SECONDARY






P550552 FUEL CARTRIDGE SOCK






P550522 FUEL CARTRIDGE SOCK

5192854

P556915 FUEL SPIN-ON PRIMARY

23530706




P556916

1

FUEL SPIN-ON SECONDARY

23530707




P559008

1

LIQUID FILTER KIT - DET. DIESE

23518687




P550117

1

LUBE CARTRIDGE






P550132

1

LUBE CARTRIDGE FULL FLOW

23530410




P551670

1

LUBE SPIN-ON FULL FLOW

23530407

 

[Jim Allen]

Most of the Navy WWII era small boat used Gray Marine conversions of the 6-71. I don't know about the oil filtration for sure (even though I once worked on them... that was a long time ago) but I seem to recall they were "different" than wheeled vehicle systems. I would start by pulling one of the old filters and looking for any part numbers to cross reference. Then, take measurements of the fitler and see what you can find by that.

 

[caravanmike]

the reson i ask cartridge or spin on is we converted ours 10 years ago to spin on with a kit from a local truck supplier. mike

 

[roadrunner1]

i think i may have a couple of oil filters yet,(and probably fuel filters also) i'll check tomorrow and let you know, i can't remember the part # off of the top of my head, it has been 20 years since we had one of those in service.

the pic gary has above looks to be the same filter we had used

 

[Seattle]

Thank you all for your thoughts. It is a Gray Marine diesel and the filter looks like the top cartridge that Gary sent a picture of.

 

[roadrunner1]

i checked and i don't have any, you should be able to cross to a fleetguard #

 

[Gary Allan]

Here's the dimensions in case you want to see how it fits up with your current filter:

P550117

CARTRIDGE LUBE FILTER

Application Details




Lube Filters Product Attributes
Length: 8" (203 mm)
Outer Diameter: 4.02" (102 mm)
Inner Diameter: 0.55" (14 mm)
Efficiency 99%: 20 Micron
Primary Application: CLARK EUCLID GMC
Application Note: 5572425 (MILITARY SEN.)
Alternate Part: P550300-COTTON MEDIA
Product Group: F

Here's the WIX version - these are bypass filters

Part Number: 51503
UPC Number: 765809515031
Principal Application: Deutz Tractors, Transicold Refrigeration Units
All Applications
Style: Cartridge Lube Metal Canister Filter
Service: Lube
Type: By-Pass
Media: Paper
Height: 8.039
Outer Diameter: 4.092
Inner Diameter: 0.567
Nominal Micron Rating: 10

Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
15039 5.125 4.375 0.070
15067 4.970 4.770 0.125

Apparently this filter was used extensively on 2-71 through 12V71 engines over various years.

applications

L@@KIE-L@@KIE!

GRAY+Marine D260 (V8)
GRAY+Marine D427 (6 Cyl.)
GRAY+Marine D572 (V8)
GRAY+Marine D572D (6 Cyl.)
GRAY+Marine D802 (6 Cyl.)

 

[Jim Allen]

Yep, the D427 is the 6-71 Gray Marine conversion. My ears are still ringin' from those "Screamin' Jimmies."

 

[roadrunner1]

i have hearing-aids that i can directly attribute to the detroit whine

 

[HM12460]

I worked on a lot of them in the Navy. 4-53's all the way up to 16V-71's, even a few 16V-149's as used on the Perry class frigate.

 

[Steve S]

The knowledge base is incredible guys.

 

[Ken2]

If you're still stuck, remove the filter assembly from the engine and take it to a Detroit Diesel shop or a major filter supplier. Either they can I.D. a filter element, or direct you to a new filter assembly that uses a current filter element. You might have to do some re-piping.