Do "O2" Sensor brands make a differance?

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I'm not sure who is the OE supplier for your Mercury Villager. Is it a Nissan engine? I thought the Mercury Villager and Nissan Quest were/are the same vehicle but I may be wrong. Whether or not it is a Nissan drivetrain, I would bet NGK/NTK is the supplier. If so, you can get a good price on NTK OE type O2 sensors at www.ntk.com, www.ngk.com or there may be a link to it on www.sparkplug.com. All 3 of those sites link back to NGK anyway.

I replaced both of my upstream O2's in my Dodge and on ntk.com I paid about $30.00 each, plus shipping. They are the exact same part as the OE sensors sold at the dealership. Again, I am not familiar with your vehicle but I know that Bosch O2's do not work well at all in Dodge vehicles. For some reason they just do not read right and don't supply the correct signals to the PCM. A lot of guys on the Dodge forums I am on have had lots of problems with Bosch O2's and also had problems with Bosch spark plugs too.

Bosch O2's may work well in your Mercury. You could check in some Merc forums or ask at the dealer. But if Bosch will work, I bet NTK would work even better and definitely for a cheaper price.
 
I have tried NGK NTK, Denso, AC Delco. My favorite is the Denso. I tune my car via narrowband (standard O2 sensor) the Denso is the most consistent. When I can afford to, I will be going with a wideband for accurate tuning. For now, I have had great results with the Denso.
 
Post-cat sensor is not going to help your fuel economy, unless it is defective......as in a Check Engine Light (CEL) lit with a code that tells you that it is bad.
The post-cat (aka downstream sensor) ONLY monitors the catalytic converter to make sure that it is working.

The pre-cat (upstream sensors) are what the computer (aka ECM or PCM) uses to control the air / fuel ratio......these DO have an impact on fuel economy.
As a oxygen sensor ages, the switching speed slows down.
So, in theory replacement with new sensors can improve fuel economy, provinding that the old ones have significantly slowed down.
If you have 2 upstream sensors......1 for each bank of cylinders on a 'V' type motor, then I would recommend that the oxygen sensors both be replaced "as a pair" so that you have the same switching charactoristics for both sensors.

HOWEVER, I did replace both upstream sensors on my '96 3.8L windstar at well over 150K miles.....some slight coolant stain on 1.....repaired the coolant leak....replaced the sensors using OEM motorcraft brand.
I did not see any performance or fuel economy gain......although the motor seemed to be running just fine before and after the change.

The theory in using OEM vs aftermarket.....even though Bosch, Denso, or NKG may have made the sensor......the sensor was made to OEM specifications.
Now, if the OEM states to use Densor, NKG, or Bosch, and the number number on the part is the same as the aftermarket.....then there is likely no difference.
 
Wow! nice link Nick, Thanks

Not much choice on down steam sensors. I think i'll just get the Denso front for now.

Im not sure if the rear controll much at all on this year Van.
 
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Yeah Wiswind, i was thinking the same thing for the post,on this van, (some cars are effected by rear sensors, but that another story)

No light on. Every blue moon a light does come on and goes off in less than 2 minutes.
 
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Originally Posted By: Roland
I'm trying to get my MPG back up where it was, so i am going to get new O2 sensors, pre and post. I heard a guy on the radio today mention to get Bosch O2 sensors. Mine are narrow band, for a 1994 Murcery Villager, does the brand really matter for narrow band sensors?

Thanks for your opinions

I can get
Walker's for $85 http://oxygensensors.com/catalog.php?&pkey=1204265
Bosch for $109 - $140 http://www.autozone.com/autozone/catalog...p;parentId=60-0


Go to rockauto.com and you'll find O2 sensors for your vehicle from $33.79 up to the Motorcraft OEM for $67.

Excellent service and even better prices.

Bill

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Nick beat me to it.. Guess I should read the WHOLE thread....
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I was going to go with Motorcraft o2 sensors for my Ranger, and saw the Bosch emblem and their p/n stamped right on it. So Bosch is the OE for Motorcraft o2sensors.
The AC Delco doesn't look like any I've seen. I would go out on a limb and say they're made by Denso, since their plugs are.

I've actually switched to NTK because NGK makes an awesome plug, and price vs. denso.. the NTK beats it easily 30%. Am I sacrificing on quality? Not a chance. you can't go wrong with either.

I used to use Bosch for everything, but they aren't keeping up with new part numbers, and while they invented the O2 sensor.. everybody else has surpassed them.
 
Originally Posted By: EricF
I was going to go with Motorcraft o2 sensors for my Ranger, and saw the Bosch emblem and their p/n stamped right on it. So Bosch is the OE for Motorcraft o2sensors.


Only some of them. It depends on the application...seems like trucks are more likely to use a Bosch sensor and cars an NTK sensor. At least, Mustang, Escort, Contour and Crown Vic all came with NTK sensors.


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I used to use Bosch for everything, but they aren't keeping up with new part numbers, and while they invented the O2 sensor.. everybody else has surpassed them.


Their European car covereage is better than Denso's.

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The AC Delco doesn't look like any I've seen. I would go out on a limb and say they're made by Denso, since their plugs are.


Does it have a blue wire? If so it probably is a Denso.
 
yeah go to rock auto and get your parts... That way someday we will only be able to get parts online..... support your local economy. Chain or local people work there and need your business.
 
Why dont dodge cars like bosh sensors? i had read this before. I have a 95 neon, and get [censored] mileage..would denso or NGK be a much better upgrade?
 
Originally Posted By: stroked93
yeah go to rock auto and get your parts... That way someday we will only be able to get parts online..... support your local economy. Chain or local people work there and need your business.


When the local guy's profits are more than the shipping from something online it's a tipoff he's a ripoff.
 
Originally Posted By: ziggy
Why dont dodge cars like bosh sensors? i had read this before. I have a 95 neon, and get [censored] mileage..would denso or NGK be a much better upgrade?


I don't know why. Maybe it has something to do with the way Dodge prorgams the PCM to match the NTK type sensor inputs. That's the only thing I can figure on it.
 
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