Your vehicle is watching, listening, and reporting your every move

[slo town]

We've had automotive flight data recorders for many years, but this takes it to a whole new level. Your car will now look at and analyze your facial expressions and eye movement to determine whether or not you are fit to drive. It will listen to your conversations, and if it can't hear your voice it'll read your lips. It will listen to the topics of your conversation so it can target advertisements. And much more! All this data will be collected and recorded on the cloud and sold to the highest bidder.

Our Orwellian future has arrived!

Scott

 

[Allaned]

We've had automotive flight data recorders for many years, but this takes it to a whole new level. Your car will now look at and analyze your facial expressions and eye movement to determine whether or not you are fit to drive. It will listen to your conversations, and if it can't hear your voice it'll read your lips. It will listen to the topics of your conversation so it can target advertisements. And much more! All this data will be collected and recorded on the cloud and sold to the highest bidder.

Our Orwellian future has arrived!

Scott

Not mine. Too old

 

[slo town]

Not mine. Too old

Me too, but all my vehicles have flight data recorders. Is your fleet old enough to not have those?

Scott

 

[KGMtech]

I take comfort that these data collections will only be used when there is a lawsuit, and I suspect the evidence will not be hard for most lawyers to toss out because of how it was collected.

 

[slo town]

I take comfort that these data collections will only be used when there is a lawsuit, and I suspect the evidence will not be hard for most lawyers to toss out because of how it was collected.

What about his chainsaw scenario in the beginning of the video? What happens if a woman jumps into her Ford truck to flee a sexual assault and the truck won't move?

Scott

 

[Nukeman7]

I would 100% endorse the new technology IF it would shut off the engine every time the driver picks up a smartphone to read or respond to a text message.

 

[slo town]

I would 100% endorse the new technology IF it would shut off the engine every time the driver picks up a smartphone to read or respond to a text message.

I'm 180 out on that. Cell phones should be the thing not work when the driver is in a moving vehicle - even hands free conversation can be too distracting for some subjects IMO.

Scott

 

[Allaned]

Me too, but all my vehicles have flight data recorders. Is your fleet old enough to not have those?

Scott

I really don’t know. Oldest is a 2007 Grand Cherokee. (Daimler/Chrysler).

 

[slo town]

I really don’t know. Oldest is a 2007 Grand Cherokee.

I am nearly certain you have a flight data record in that thing. They've been around for a long time. I think BMW put them in starting in the mid/late '90s.

Scott

 

[Trav]

Scumbags!

 

[JimPghPA]

I saw a big diesel dump truck go through a red light that was red at least 2 seconds before he got to the crosswalk area of the street he was coming out of. He was on 10th St. heading to cross Carson St. in the South Side area of Pittsburgh PA. He was a man in dirty work clothes about 35 to 45 yo AND ON HIS CELL PHONE. It was pure luck that no vehicle on Carson that had the green light crossed that intersection at that time. I could not immediately follow him because I would have had to run a red light. But I did stop him on the downtown side of the Armstrong tunnel and tell him what he had just done.

Theres scores of dangerous drivers and every year we have thousands of death becausd of them.

Such systems have their place. No mo drunk or drugged out drivers, no mo 100 mph or more in a 65 mph zone. Like many safety systems it will require tweaking to iron out bugs.

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I rember a shop foreman who repeatedly told his true story about him only being alive because he did not have his seat belt fastened when he was first in line stopped at a light and a big rig front wheel of vehicle ran over the front of his small car when the driver totally miss-judged a turn, and he quickly moved to the front passengers seat of his small car just before that big rig front tire crushed the drivers side and stopped on-top of the roof of his car that was crushed down to the drivers seat. Many times I heard him say seatbelts should not be required. And then repeat that story.

Unfortunately, the reality is many things are not 100 % the best way to do things in ALL situations.

Air-bags save lives and prevent injuries, Air-bags cost lives and causd injuries, both true. And we have learned to minimize the downside. Ya gonna campaine against Air-bags? Just another example, and there are many in many fields of science and engineering and every day life.

 

[robbobster]

Cars can generate up to 25GB of data per hour, that data is getting used somehow…some eye-opening info here:

https://www.spglobal.com/automotive...ta-privacy-concerns-spoil-connected-car-party

 

[K-Man]

Me too, but all my vehicles have flight data recorders. Is your fleet old enough to not have those?

Scott

When did everyone buy flying cars? Didn't know those were on the market yet.

 

[zzyzzx]

Can't you already turn off all or most of this? I'm not saying that if there is menu items that let you opt out of everything that I necessarily believe that's going to actually happen, but still...

 

[MCompact]

Event Data Recorders (EDR) have been required since 2013. When I was a prosecutor I attended a few courses on accident reconstruction (At one course an accident was going to be recreated using old cars pulled by cables. The cable snapped on one car and the car almost hit my M235i, but I digress).
Anyway, the courses went into detail into the numerous ways to gather vehicular evidence in addition to the EDR; phone apps, cell tower pings, security cameras, Flock cameras, etc.

 

[ClutchDisc]

I will gladly keep maintaining and driving my older vehicles. No thank you!!

 

[shortyb]

Can't you already turn off all or most of this? I'm not saying that if there is menu items that let you opt out of everything that I necessarily believe that's going to actually happen, but still...

One of my cars is too old, but still has recorder info available for a time before it is overwritten. Through my accident reconstruction classes, I learned how to overwrite the info and collect zero new monitored parameters as long as the vehicle was operating. Works on my newest vehicle (a 2020) and imagine it would also on any newer vehicle too. For legal reasons, I will not disclose how this is done. Big brother can go watch someone else.

 

[SC Maintenance]

The current trending theme on X is they will ultimately implement a new cash for clunkers type program to put as many people in these new monitoring cars as possible.

Not what I am saying, just saying there is a pretty large group of folks that think this.

 

[Cujet]

I have narrow squinty eyes and my F150 does start yelling at me from time to time. (a family trait) My vision is excellent and there are no problems with acuity or field of view. The truck simply wants my eyes open more than they are. Which can get tiring. I'm tempted to produce images of eyes to place in front of each IR camera. I've had enough of this nonsense.

It has multiple IR cameras and IR leds facing me. Also, even the smallest hint of inattention, such as tuning the radio or looking at house numbers on a mailbox generate a prompt. Time to return to the basics and get rid of the nannies. Full throttle when I want it, no automatic braking when I'm weaving through traffic, no backing off with cruise control letting people cut in front endlessly.

 

[PandaBear]

I don't mind it, I already have a dash cam inside my car. It is easier than to fight a lying driver in court, and if my insurance company reduce a quote because of any of these feature I am fine with it.

Selling it to advertiser though is wrong.