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Wrecked my Blue Crown Vic.
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Originally Posted By: exranger06
Originally Posted By: Shark
Swap any parts you want before insurance comes to take it.
He already said he doesn't have full coverage on it, so the insurance company will not be coming to take it at all.
I guess it was not in the first post. Too bad, parting out will help recoup some loss.
Originally Posted By: Shark
Swap any parts you want before insurance comes to take it.
He already said he doesn't have full coverage on it, so the insurance company will not be coming to take it at all.
I guess it was not in the first post. Too bad, parting out will help recoup some loss.
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Catching rubber in 2nd can be tricky; stability control is a wonderful thing in this case.
Live an learn, good luck with fixing it.
So is a judicious right foot...my Caddy will get sideways in second (or third) easily. At this point, I don't even think about it, I've driven that car so long.
Catching rubber in 2nd can be tricky; stability control is a wonderful thing in this case.
Live an learn, good luck with fixing it.
So is a judicious right foot...my Caddy will get sideways in second (or third) easily. At this point, I don't even think about it, I've driven that car so long.
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Catching rubber in 2nd can be tricky; stability control is a wonderful thing in this case.
Live an learn, good luck with fixing it.
So is a judicious right foot...my Caddy will get sideways in second (or third) easily. At this point, I don't even think about it, I've driven that car so long.
Yep RWD cars are a lot of fun, all I have ever owned.
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Catching rubber in 2nd can be tricky; stability control is a wonderful thing in this case.
Live an learn, good luck with fixing it.
So is a judicious right foot...my Caddy will get sideways in second (or third) easily. At this point, I don't even think about it, I've driven that car so long.
Yep RWD cars are a lot of fun, all I have ever owned.
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Glad to hear you're okay! The car can be replaced/rebuilt. You can't.
So sorry you lost your Vic, but glad you walked away with minor injury. It could have been much, much worse.
If you start to get some aches and pains in the next few days, you might want to get yourself a re-alignment with a good chiropractor so you heal right. It's one of those things I wish I had done after collisions and falls when I was young because now I have bone spurs and facet arthritis from badly healed soft tissue injuries.
If you start to get some aches and pains in the next few days, you might want to get yourself a re-alignment with a good chiropractor so you heal right. It's one of those things I wish I had done after collisions and falls when I was young because now I have bone spurs and facet arthritis from badly healed soft tissue injuries.
Originally Posted By: madRiver
The car is not one of the safest because it kicked out the rear end and had no ability except driver reflex to place back into control. A modern stability control likely would have prevented this accident or made it easier to recover.
Yes that's right, we need more intrusive technology in cars to nanny drivers, rather than better training and common sense. Hopefully the government steps in and makes us crush all our old cars and get Subarus with TC and ABS. Sometimes I don't know how I get out of the driveway without ABS, Traction Control, a backup camera, Lane Departure, Collision Detection, Adaptive Steering, and Onstar to tell me my EGR is not flowing.
The car is not one of the safest because it kicked out the rear end and had no ability except driver reflex to place back into control. A modern stability control likely would have prevented this accident or made it easier to recover.
Yes that's right, we need more intrusive technology in cars to nanny drivers, rather than better training and common sense. Hopefully the government steps in and makes us crush all our old cars and get Subarus with TC and ABS. Sometimes I don't know how I get out of the driveway without ABS, Traction Control, a backup camera, Lane Departure, Collision Detection, Adaptive Steering, and Onstar to tell me my EGR is not flowing.
Originally Posted By: asand1
Originally Posted By: madRiver
The car is not one of the safest because it kicked out the rear end and had no ability except driver reflex to place back into control. A modern stability control likely would have prevented this accident or made it easier to recover.
Yes that's right, we need more intrusive technology in cars to nanny drivers, rather than better training and common sense. Hopefully the government steps in and makes us crush all our old cars and get Subarus with TC and ABS. Sometimes I don't know how I get out of the driveway without ABS, Traction Control, a backup camera, Lane Departure, Collision Detection, Adaptive Steering, and Onstar to tell me my EGR is not flowing.
So called "intrusive technology" is another nagging point here on BITOG. Nothing new here. This technology ranks right up there with Subarus, Chinese Tires, and you name it as far as negative comments. Whether BITOG members like this stuff or not they make driving safer.
BTW- we all think we are better drivers than we actually are. FYI.
Originally Posted By: madRiver
The car is not one of the safest because it kicked out the rear end and had no ability except driver reflex to place back into control. A modern stability control likely would have prevented this accident or made it easier to recover.
Yes that's right, we need more intrusive technology in cars to nanny drivers, rather than better training and common sense. Hopefully the government steps in and makes us crush all our old cars and get Subarus with TC and ABS. Sometimes I don't know how I get out of the driveway without ABS, Traction Control, a backup camera, Lane Departure, Collision Detection, Adaptive Steering, and Onstar to tell me my EGR is not flowing.
So called "intrusive technology" is another nagging point here on BITOG. Nothing new here. This technology ranks right up there with Subarus, Chinese Tires, and you name it as far as negative comments. Whether BITOG members like this stuff or not they make driving safer.
BTW- we all think we are better drivers than we actually are. FYI.
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Originally Posted By: surfstar
Originally Posted By: CKN
These things are dinosaurs in every since of the word. But they are the darling love child here on BITOG.com
Wait, are you suggesting that BITOGer are not 'progressive' in their automobile choices?
Glad the OP's okay and no one else was involved.
Good luck getting some $ back on the aftermarket parts to salvage what investment you can back.
My FWD stick shifts have yet to do this to me. And the fact that it never rains here helps even more.
Have you seen the list at the end of the signatures of how old some of these daily drivers are?
Originally Posted By: CKN
These things are dinosaurs in every since of the word. But they are the darling love child here on BITOG.com
Wait, are you suggesting that BITOGer are not 'progressive' in their automobile choices?
Glad the OP's okay and no one else was involved.
Good luck getting some $ back on the aftermarket parts to salvage what investment you can back.
My FWD stick shifts have yet to do this to me. And the fact that it never rains here helps even more.
Have you seen the list at the end of the signatures of how old some of these daily drivers are?
Too bad it wasn't a manual transmission because you would have had more control of how the power was applied to the rear wheels. Didn't the Mercury Marauder made back in the mid 2000s have a manual trans option? I do think some CV had it at one point.
Glad you are OK, but a lesson learned. When driving on slick roads
Glad you are OK, but a lesson learned. When driving on slick roads
No, there was never a manual option in the panthers. Some people have swapped them in, but its somewhat involved as a reinforcement plate has to be welded to the firewall along with cutting the holes for the shifter and clutch.
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I'll sell you my 2011 LX? Lol Sorry just kidding I luv my black panther mobile! Hope you find another soon!
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OP, I have to give you credit, most people would not post about a mistake they made that led to an accident. I also have to tip my hat to BITOG for being polite and courteous. Other automotive forums I've been on get very inconsiderate towards people who post about accidents.
I'm surprised traction control didn't save you, unless you shut it off in the tune or just prior to this accident.
Anyone against stability control/traction control... It can be annoying and I have a problem with not being able to turn it off. But when something freak occurs, like this, it can save you car or your life.
I'm surprised traction control didn't save you, unless you shut it off in the tune or just prior to this accident.
Anyone against stability control/traction control... It can be annoying and I have a problem with not being able to turn it off. But when something freak occurs, like this, it can save you car or your life.
Originally Posted By: Shark
OP, I have to give you credit, most people would not post about a mistake they made that led to an accident. I also have to tip my hat to BITOG for being polite and courteous. Other automotive forums I've been on get very inconsiderate towards people who post about accidents.
I'm surprised traction control didn't save you, unless you shut it off in the tune or just prior to this accident.
Anyone against stability control/traction control... It can be annoying and I have a problem with not being able to turn it off. But when something freak occurs, like this, it can save you car or your life.
This car was optioned without traction control.
She runs, but loses about 1qt/min out of the hole in the valve cover.
OP, I have to give you credit, most people would not post about a mistake they made that led to an accident. I also have to tip my hat to BITOG for being polite and courteous. Other automotive forums I've been on get very inconsiderate towards people who post about accidents.
I'm surprised traction control didn't save you, unless you shut it off in the tune or just prior to this accident.
Anyone against stability control/traction control... It can be annoying and I have a problem with not being able to turn it off. But when something freak occurs, like this, it can save you car or your life.
This car was optioned without traction control.
She runs, but loses about 1qt/min out of the hole in the valve cover.
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
Originally Posted By: Shark
OP, I have to give you credit, most people would not post about a mistake they made that led to an accident. I also have to tip my hat to BITOG for being polite and courteous. Other automotive forums I've been on get very inconsiderate towards people who post about accidents.
I'm surprised traction control didn't save you, unless you shut it off in the tune or just prior to this accident.
Anyone against stability control/traction control... It can be annoying and I have a problem with not being able to turn it off. But when something freak occurs, like this, it can save you car or your life.
This car was optioned without traction control.
She runs, but loses about 1qt/min out of the hole in the valve cover.
Good thing there wasn't any "intrusive technology" that may have helped your situation........
Originally Posted By: Shark
OP, I have to give you credit, most people would not post about a mistake they made that led to an accident. I also have to tip my hat to BITOG for being polite and courteous. Other automotive forums I've been on get very inconsiderate towards people who post about accidents.
I'm surprised traction control didn't save you, unless you shut it off in the tune or just prior to this accident.
Anyone against stability control/traction control... It can be annoying and I have a problem with not being able to turn it off. But when something freak occurs, like this, it can save you car or your life.
This car was optioned without traction control.
She runs, but loses about 1qt/min out of the hole in the valve cover.
Good thing there wasn't any "intrusive technology" that may have helped your situation........
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I doubt it. Its pretty dumb on these older ones. All it does is cuts the engine to like zero output and yeah it pulses the brakes on the slipping tire but I don't think it would have helped here.
This is the traction control implementation that gave traction control a bad name and why you have people complaining about it.
Example. You are pulling out onto a busy two lane highway (50mph) to go left. You see a nice spot to slip in and you gas it.
Unfortunately, there was a little bit of gravel on the road and your tire slips. The traction control intervenes and cuts the engine to an idle. You are now in the middle of the lane with no power. Luckily the traffic was attentive and slowed to avoid plowing into you.
After a couple seconds, the engine returns to normal power.
You go home and jumper the traction control switch out so it defaults off every time you start the car.
This is a situation that happened to a friend with a 2004 Grand Marq.
This is the traction control implementation that gave traction control a bad name and why you have people complaining about it.
Example. You are pulling out onto a busy two lane highway (50mph) to go left. You see a nice spot to slip in and you gas it.
Unfortunately, there was a little bit of gravel on the road and your tire slips. The traction control intervenes and cuts the engine to an idle. You are now in the middle of the lane with no power. Luckily the traffic was attentive and slowed to avoid plowing into you.
After a couple seconds, the engine returns to normal power.
You go home and jumper the traction control switch out so it defaults off every time you start the car.
This is a situation that happened to a friend with a 2004 Grand Marq.
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Originally Posted By: asand1
Originally Posted By: madRiver
The car is not one of the safest because it kicked out the rear end and had no ability except driver reflex to place back into control. A modern stability control likely would have prevented this accident or made it easier to recover.
Yes that's right, we need more intrusive technology in cars to nanny drivers, rather than better training and common sense. Hopefully the government steps in and makes us crush all our old cars and get Subarus with TC and ABS. Sometimes I don't know how I get out of the driveway without ABS, Traction Control, a backup camera, Lane Departure, Collision Detection, Adaptive Steering, and Onstar to tell me my EGR is not flowing.
The only safety feature I feel is useful recently has been stability control. the balance of stuff is selling safety for no reason except it sells and tech sells now. The reason the rolling relic of a CRown Vic was killed is ford did not bother adding it as a requirement to the 2012 model.
The day I see you brake a single rear wheel to pivot a car back on track I will be amazed.
Originally Posted By: madRiver
The car is not one of the safest because it kicked out the rear end and had no ability except driver reflex to place back into control. A modern stability control likely would have prevented this accident or made it easier to recover.
Yes that's right, we need more intrusive technology in cars to nanny drivers, rather than better training and common sense. Hopefully the government steps in and makes us crush all our old cars and get Subarus with TC and ABS. Sometimes I don't know how I get out of the driveway without ABS, Traction Control, a backup camera, Lane Departure, Collision Detection, Adaptive Steering, and Onstar to tell me my EGR is not flowing.
The only safety feature I feel is useful recently has been stability control. the balance of stuff is selling safety for no reason except it sells and tech sells now. The reason the rolling relic of a CRown Vic was killed is ford did not bother adding it as a requirement to the 2012 model.
The day I see you brake a single rear wheel to pivot a car back on track I will be amazed.
Technology should not be a substitute for competence and personal responsibility.
No offence to colt45, I just don't believe more complex systems to break down and repair is the answer.
No offence to colt45, I just don't believe more complex systems to break down and repair is the answer.
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