Wow, 20k-30k OCI with dino. 400k on the odometer

[steveh]

I think I can believe this if its all highway miles. If you divide 20,000 by 60mph you have 333.33 hours. I do almost all city miles and my trip computer reads about 200 hours in 3,000 miles.

 

[chet2]

i bet motor was at least burning oil...i know many people who pull the same stunt but engine burns a qt every 2k or so

 

[chet2]

maybe he made a mistake and thought oil changes stickers said 30k instead of 3k...close enough

 

[M1Accord]

It is a bonus to fill oil filter with oil but it is not critical. The reason is that the engine would be saturated with fresh oil after an oil change. For a typical car, that's more than 4 quarts of oil flowing from the top of the engine and down throughout the car. Additionally, the car was driven to the oil change place so oil is also every where. It takes less than half of a second for oil to flow to the filter. It is a moot point.

The true killers of engine that are properly maintain are:

1) Poor engine design
2) Low quality parts used in the engine to save cost
3) Cold start after the car has sit for more than 6 hours.

Number 3 is easily cured by using M1.

 

[M1Accord]

This story is wrong in every possible way. It is a attempt to get Toyota to pay for positive street marketing. Brake fluid cannot last 400k miles and highway drivers use brake too, just not as much as city driver.

 

[Hokiefyd]

Originally Posted By: steveh
I think I can believe this if its all highway miles. If you divide 20,000 by 60mph you have 333.33 hours. I do almost all city miles and my trip computer reads about 200 hours in 3,000 miles.


I like this thinking. And you can probably assume that 200 hours of city driving is much harder on the engine than 333 hours of interstate driving.

Back when I had a car that had an AVG SPEED indicator (my old Cadillac), I'd average about 25 MPH on my commute. For a standard OCI of, say, 7,500 miles, that's 300 (hard) hours. 300 (easy) hours at an average speed of 55 MPH is 16,500 miles, so it's definitely in the ballpark.

On the other hand, this was an xB, so highway RPM was probably well north of 3,000 RPM. Oil temperatures may have been rather elevated compared with idling around town. But still...I agree with you that it's certainly not out of the realm of the equivalency of what other marginally-maintained engines get for maintenance.

 

[Sunabozu]

I'd believe it, i drive nearly that much, 8k per month minimum.

 

[Kaboomba]

1. 400K in
2. 5 years on a
3. good quality car (by Toyota) using
4. modern oils which are all pretty much awesome
5. 95% highway cruising (ideal operating conditions)

I say 30K OCI is certainly do-able. Whether or not this guy actually did it is another issue. We know nothing about the condition of the engine at this point!

 

[BuickGN]

Originally Posted By: M1Accord
It is a bonus to fill oil filter with oil but it is not critical. The reason is that the engine would be saturated with fresh oil after an oil change. For a typical car, that's more than 4 quarts of oil flowing from the top of the engine and down throughout the car. Additionally, the car was driven to the oil change place so oil is also every where. It takes less than half of a second for oil to flow to the filter. It is a moot point.

The true killers of engine that are properly maintain are:

1) Poor engine design
2) Low quality parts used in the engine to save cost
3) Cold start after the car has sit for more than 6 hours.

Number 3 is easily cured by using M1.


Total oil capacity has nothing to do with how much oil is left in the engine. I have had the opportunity to measure by triggering the preluber after the oil stops draining and we're talking 3/4 quart and that's with a large oil cooler and associated lines. Most cars would have half a quart or less still in the galleys and sitting in puddles in the heads.

All of this is still irrelevant once you pull the filter anyway. You broke the seal and any column of oil that was above the filter is not in the drain pan.

While most cars hit full pressure extremely quick during a normal cold start, adding a new empty filter can take 3 seconds or longer to fill up and get pressure. Normally you're not filling anything up, you're just pressurizing it so adding a dry filter does make a significant difference in time to pressure and flow.

How exactly does Mobil One cure cold start engine wear? I assume it was a joke but you never know.

 

[Marchboom]

Originally Posted By: BuickGN
Originally Posted By: M1Accord
It is a bonus to fill oil filter with oil but it is not critical. The reason is that the engine would be saturated with fresh oil after an oil change. For a typical car, that's more than 4 quarts of oil flowing from the top of the engine and down throughout the car. Additionally, the car was driven to the oil change place so oil is also every where. It takes less than half of a second for oil to flow to the filter. It is a moot point.

The true killers of engine that are properly maintain are:

1) Poor engine design
2) Low quality parts used in the engine to save cost
3) Cold start after the car has sit for more than 6 hours.

Number 3 is easily cured by using M1.


Total oil capacity has nothing to do with how much oil is left in the engine. I have had the opportunity to measure by triggering the preluber after the oil stops draining and we're talking 3/4 quart and that's with a large oil cooler and associated lines. Most cars would have half a quart or less still in the galleys and sitting in puddles in the heads.

All of this is still irrelevant once you pull the filter anyway. You broke the seal and any column of oil that was above the filter is not in the drain pan.

While most cars hit full pressure extremely quick during a normal cold start, adding a new empty filter can take 3 seconds or longer to fill up and get pressure. Normally you're not filling anything up, you're just pressurizing it so adding a dry filter does make a significant difference in time to pressure and flow.

How exactly does Mobil One cure cold start engine wear? I assume it was a joke but you never know.


BuickGN, you mentioned a preluber. Do you think they are worth putting in a street car. I have heard of 2 manufacturers. When building engines I will always spin the oil pump to pressurize the oil lines as best as possible before firing it.

 

[SteveSRT8]

I ran pre lubers on dozens of specially built engines before synthetic oils. Still have one on my blown boat motor.

might be a bit of an overkill on a modern setup.