The next generation of vehicles will be made in China. Within 5 years. At half the price. To me that's completely obvious.
Would you buy a car assembled in Mexico?
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After seeing what VW has done since 1986 (when my trouble free 320k Jetta was built in Germany) and seeing all the troubles that I've seen in friends/co-workers made in Mexico VWs was enough for me to pass on VW when it came time to look for a new vehicle.
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After seeing what VW has done since 1986 (when my trouble free 320k Jetta was built in Germany) and seeing all the troubles that I've seen in friends/co-workers made in Mexico VWs was enough for me to pass on VW when it came time to look for a new vehicle.
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That was the experience of a medical tubing company I worked for a couple of years that had some production in Mexico. If they paid them too much, they only worked 3 days a week. The supervisors were paid as much as their American contemporaries ..but the production workers made much less. The company had wanted to move the entire production to Mexico ...but they couldn't produce the product that were made domestically. This isn't necessarily a reflection upon the workers in terms of quality, though. The rejection rate for medical tubing can be up to 70% ..even with the most skilled workers producing them. Between that, ISO and FDA documentation, you can see why, what effectively amounts to a drinking straw with fancier material, costs $400 for a 3" piece.
It's not where the product is built, but more about design and quality control. This is why American made Honda's and Toyota's are just as good as if they were built in Japan.
I take a "J" VIN Corolla before a CA one.
If you want to build cars with cheap Mexican labor the second largest city in Mexico would be a good place to start, Los Angles. There is an abundance of labor available here. It would be good for the economy but we should require that they get insurance and register their cars, get their kids immunized and start paying taxes.
The problem with many VWs is not how they were engineered or assembled -- it's how what should be one or two simple-to-fix problems end up requiring so many trips back to the dealership. They act like every problem is unique and they've never seen anything like it before.
My VW had two warranty issues in the first 50k miles -- a bad MAF sensor, and an airbox that was broken at a different VW dealership (stripped threads), that caused dirt to get in, and probably caused the bad MAF sensor. Otherwise it was and still is a great car. Built in Brazil though, not in Mexico.
I don't think that comparable cars will be 1/2 the price because they are made in China - no way.
I bought a Mexican made car, my Ford ZX2 [Hermosillo, Mexico].
Well put together, and I've seem a few. I don't know where the engine was mfrd, though.
I bought a Mexican made car, my Ford ZX2 [Hermosillo, Mexico].
Well put together, and I've seem a few. I don't know where the engine was mfrd, though.
Absolutely.
In fact I did, and it's the best assembled and performing GM vehicle I have had since I my 1989 Cavalier RS coupe.
My Chevy has a Denso alternator, vehicle assembled in Mexico.
Mt Dodge Ram was assembled in Mexico but it's really a North American vehicle, as when crawling under it and looking at stuff you also find Canadian and US subassemblies. They make the Rams at a plant in Missouri too as Irecall, or use to, but so far mine has worked fine. The Dodge Ram with a Cummins is the best bet for the longest running vehicle, so they seem to be doing ok.
Close to 100% North American, since Mexico is in North America.
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Close to 100% North American, since Mexico is in North America.
Which a lot of people seen to forget when discussing "North American" cars.
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Close to 100% North American, since Mexico is in North America.
So that's why the North American Free Trade Agreement includes Mexico!
St. Louis North (Fenton, MO) makes the RAM.
St. Louis South (Fenton, MO) makes the minivans.
St. Louis South (Fenton, MO) makes the minivans.
I've been driving one for over 10 years now.
Back when I bought the Neon brand new, had no idea about half of them were assembled in Toluca, Mexico. Didn't find out until I'd owned & driven it for about 3 years. From all I've learned at Neons.org, never saw anything to suggest that the Mexican-made Toluca-mobile Neons were any more or less reliable than the American-made Belvedere-buggies.
I changed the Neon's oil just the day before yesterday, with the odometer at 205,7xx mies. Still hums right along.
So, based on my experience, I wouldn't let assembly in Mexico be a deal-breaker on another car. JMO.
Back when I bought the Neon brand new, had no idea about half of them were assembled in Toluca, Mexico. Didn't find out until I'd owned & driven it for about 3 years. From all I've learned at Neons.org, never saw anything to suggest that the Mexican-made Toluca-mobile Neons were any more or less reliable than the American-made Belvedere-buggies.
I changed the Neon's oil just the day before yesterday, with the odometer at 205,7xx mies. Still hums right along.
So, based on my experience, I wouldn't let assembly in Mexico be a deal-breaker on another car. JMO.
I would buy a car assembled in Mexico. I would love to get my hands on a Mexican beetle. The orginal style.
"electronic ignition in 1988, an anti-theft alarm system in 1990, a catalytic converter in 1991, as well as electronic fuel injection, hydraulic valve lifters, and a spin-on oil filter in 1993. The front turn signals were located in the bumper instead of the Beetle's traditional placement on top of the front fenders from the mid 1970s on, as they had been on German Beetles sold in Europe of the same time period."-from Wikipedia
The Last One...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Volkswagen_Bubbla_sista_bilen.jpg
...don't worry it's in a museum in Germany.
By the way that was number 21,529,464...
"electronic ignition in 1988, an anti-theft alarm system in 1990, a catalytic converter in 1991, as well as electronic fuel injection, hydraulic valve lifters, and a spin-on oil filter in 1993. The front turn signals were located in the bumper instead of the Beetle's traditional placement on top of the front fenders from the mid 1970s on, as they had been on German Beetles sold in Europe of the same time period."-from Wikipedia
The Last One...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Volkswagen_Bubbla_sista_bilen.jpg
...don't worry it's in a museum in Germany.
By the way that was number 21,529,464...
If a company brags that is great for the USA, and builds a car in Mexico, I wouldn't buy it.
If a company simply brags that they have a lower priced car that still works well, I would buy it.
I bought a VW Jetta because I liked it, so I didn't complain when the final assembly was in Mexico.
My dad completely passed by the Ford Fusion when shopping for a car, and bough a Pontiac G6, because the Pontiac was made in the USA.
I guess it all comes down to the level of hypocrisy that an auto maker produces along with their car. Some of that ---- comes from their marketing department as well.
And about money going to Japan when a US built Honda is bought, I don't see it as such a problem because Corporations usually get insanely huge tax breaks.
If a company simply brags that they have a lower priced car that still works well, I would buy it.
I bought a VW Jetta because I liked it, so I didn't complain when the final assembly was in Mexico.
My dad completely passed by the Ford Fusion when shopping for a car, and bough a Pontiac G6, because the Pontiac was made in the USA.
I guess it all comes down to the level of hypocrisy that an auto maker produces along with their car. Some of that ---- comes from their marketing department as well.
And about money going to Japan when a US built Honda is bought, I don't see it as such a problem because Corporations usually get insanely huge tax breaks.
No.
But, then again, the short block in my truck (a SBC) was made in Mexico, and it's been great, with very high quality machining and no core shift... hmmm... I guess I actually would buy a vehicle made in Mexico.
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