Wonder if commercial airline pilots would come to a like conclusion with a 2023 Cadillac?

From what I see in the Training Center Parking lot - BMW, followed by various brands of pickups, then Subaru and Tesla. A smattering of other makes, but BMW seems to be the most popular.
 
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The new caddys are crop. IMO they have lost their way. Glorified Chevys. I grew up in a home that drove Cadillacs. They were superb cars. Quiet, smooth and powerful for their time. Their comfort was incredible. I inherited Fleetwood Broghoum. Quite a car.
 
So what drove you to start another GM bashing ?
My friend’s wife just got a new Lincoln - so I know they were available from the same company if you wanted to be fair …
I don't consider Lincoln a relevant or viable brand- just some cosmetically modified badged Ford. Cadillac still sells some original vehicles, like this 2024 CT5. In fact, I think Ford today is essentially a specialty vehicle manufacturer- no longer a manufacturer for most Americans outside of their full size trucks.

Like Ford, not a lot to like about GM since the 1970s, but I am impressed with GM's
current/new full size GM trucks and SUVs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_CT5
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I don't consider Lincoln a relevant or viable brand- just some cosmetically modified badged Ford. Cadillac still sells some original vehicles, like this 2024 CT5. In fact, I think Ford today is essentially a specialty vehicle manufacturer- no longer a manufacturer for most Americans outside of their full size trucks.

Like Ford, not a lot to like about GM since the 1970s, but I am impressed with GM's
current/new full size GM trucks and SUVs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_CT5
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Think again - they all rebadge …
Camaro was alpha platform - and if they stayed in the car business
-vs- SUV - they’d have used it more …
 
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Think again - they all rebadge …
Camaro was alpha platform - and if they stayed in the car business
-vs- SUV - they’d have used it more …
When I go to a pull a part I often see later model Lincoln vehicles, like a 2017 Lincoln are common to find. I am not seeing later model Cadillacs at the pull a part.

Lincoln has a fork in it and has been turned over. I suspect GM is still motivated to try and keep Cadillac relevant. Shame for Lincoln, I liked the looks of their latest Continental. Too bad the quality on the Continental was very poor, and Ford offered way too many engine and interior options, rather than one great drivetrain and interior option that they could have kept better quality and zeroed in quickly to fix and design or quality errors.
 
With Mercury gone, would 44 out of 50 commercial airline pilots in 2023 prefer a Cadillac over a comparable German vehicle?

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Brings back memories. My dad owned one (72' I believe) when I began driving. That thing was huge. If I remember correctly it had a 429ci. with a 4 barrel carb. I remember getting it up to 100mph after dropping the parents of at the airport. Dumb kid!
 
When I go to a pull a part I often see later model Lincoln vehicles, like a 2017 Lincoln are common to find. I am not seeing later model Cadillacs at the pull a part.

Lincoln has a fork in it and has been turned over. I suspect GM is still motivated to try and keep Cadillac relevant. Shame for Lincoln, I liked the looks of their latest Continental. Too bad the quality on the Continental was very poor, and Ford offered way too many engine and interior options, rather than one great drivetrain and interior option that they could have kept better quality and zeroed in quickly to fix and design or quality errors.
I don’t think you answered my question
 
Brings back memories. My dad owned one (72' I believe) when I began driving. That thing was huge. If I remember correctly it had a 429ci. with a 4 barrel carb. I remember getting it up to 100mph after dropping the parents of at the airport. Dumb kid!
Times were different in the 1970s. Dad had a 1971 Olds 98 coupe, I think it had a 454 in it. I recall him seeing how fast it would go, none of us buckled in.....
 
Brings back memories. My dad owned one (72' I believe) when I began driving. That thing was huge. If I remember correctly it had a 429ci. with a 4 barrel carb. I remember getting it up to 100mph after dropping the parents of at the airport. Dumb kid!
All the massive cars rode great - Olds included - just had to corner at 10 mph 😵‍💫
 
The car rode so steady, a Cartier diamond cutter split a diamond in the backseat! Such a feat has never been attempted since, because today's cars ride so crappy.


I remember a SNL skit during that era of a rabbi performing a circumcision in the back seat of a ‘ Royal Deluxe II ‘ to demonstrate how smooth the car rode. Garrett Morris was driving the car. Hilarious! EDIT: jhs just beat me to it!
 
The new caddys are crop. IMO they have lost their way. Glorified Chevys. I grew up in a home that drove Cadillacs. They were superb cars. Quiet, smooth and powerful for their time. Their comfort was incredible. I inherited Fleetwood Broghoum. Quite a car.
+1

Cadillac has all but destroyed their name brand, by producing a bunch of crap over the last several decades. It started with the "Cimarron" back in 1982. That was nothing more than a glorified Chevy Cavalier... With a jacked up price.

I know a few guys who bought them back then, and the build quality was terrible. Nothing that you would expect from Cadillac. And from there it went downhill.

Today's Cadillacs represent nothing the brand used to stand for. Except for the inflated price. Their engines are much the same. Their "8-6-4" V-8 was a total disaster. Their attempt at cylinder deactivation that ended up to be a total joke.

They came out when CB radios were all the rage. The owner of the company I worked for at the time bought one. And everytime he keyed up his CB above 30 MPH, the engine would quit. And it was difficult to restart after it did.

He ended up trading it in after only one year, and several trips back to the dealer. The "Northstar V-8" was another Cadillac problem child. Countless head bolts were stripped out because if you torqued them to spec, there was a big problem with the head gaskets leaking antifreeze into the cylinders. The threads would "stretch" causing insufficient torque.

Naturally this didn't occur on every one. But the ones it did happen on, was usually just after the warranty expired. It's amazing they still sell as many of them as they do.
 
Mostly BMW in the simulator building parking lot in Toronto.

Mostly Tesla in the Montreal employee parking lot ( cheapest hydro plus provincial and federal rebates in Quebec plus more EV cult mentality ).

I feel very safe my old Honda won’t get stolen.
 
I don’t think you answered my question
I guess in my mind, Lincoln and Mitsubishi are no longer relevant in the car market. Buick and Chrysler may soon fit the non relevant category also.

So, by default all that was left was Cadillac to post as a us nameplate comparison to German sedans.
 
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