So she is out driving to pick it up as I write this. The $1.50 delivery fee plus tip is just too much to handle. She makes close to $28.00 an hour as a RN. I understand her coupon clipping, but golly.
Wife is too cheap to have the pizza delivered
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If she is that cheap, she could actually make pizza herself. Tastes WAY better, too.
Look at it on the bright side, she's not not looking forward to seeing the pizza guy every night.....
Look at it on the bright side, she's not not looking forward to seeing the pizza guy every night.....
How much gas is she gonna burn to save the $1.50 delivery fee?
I'm like your wife. I make $26/hr if you count benefits, and I pick the pizza up.
I tip like I was in a restaruant, so if I order $20 in pizza that's $3. Plus $1.50 makes $4.50.
Gas is probably 10 cents a mile for me, and I always seem to get my pizza half an hour quicker when I pick it up.
I tip like I was in a restaruant, so if I order $20 in pizza that's $3. Plus $1.50 makes $4.50.
Gas is probably 10 cents a mile for me, and I always seem to get my pizza half an hour quicker when I pick it up.
My wife makes the pizzas to save $$. Then again, this is Middle Tennessee, pizza joints are NOTHING like the ones in Chicago.
Somehow the "Learn to Say NO to marriage" thread came to mind when I read the topic of this very thread...
Somehow the "Learn to Say NO to marriage" thread came to mind when I read the topic of this very thread...
Drive it forever,
Aren't you getting married very soon ?? Maybe she wants to save every penny for the upcoming wedding or diamond ring. LOL
I didn't know that Papa Johns added $1.50 deliever charge for Pizza until a few days ago.
Aren't you getting married very soon ?? Maybe she wants to save every penny for the upcoming wedding or diamond ring. LOL
I didn't know that Papa Johns added $1.50 deliever charge for Pizza until a few days ago.
Yup, just got hitched. The pizza was from papa johns, a hawaiian chicken pizza, yummy. I need to learn how to not
to her.
When I order a pizza I don't tip. Why should I? I'm buying the pizza, right? Nobody has to deliver a pizza if they don't want to. I feel the same about these coffee stand barista (spelling). Why should I tip a person handing me a cup of coffee that I just paid over three bucks for? Both of these jobs pay wages. And it's not like being a waiter when you drop a pizza off at my house. They get paid for gas and earn a wage. What next, are we going to be expected to tip the kid that helps us out with the groceries? Or how about our barber? The doorman? Nah....sometimes this tip stuff gets out of hand.
I'm with you on that one. I hate tipping. Am I in so much of a better position than these people that I need to donate money to them? I do tip in restaurants or lounges, though I'd prefer to not even do that and usually just buy over-the-counter food (subs, pitas, fast food) to avoid it. I'd prefer if higher wages were just included in the price of the meal.
I usually pick up my pizza to avoid feeling rude by not tipping. Plus, there's often a small discount or something free, and I usually get the food quicker anyway.
I love those deli counters with the tip jars on them.
I like to pick-up my pie. Not only is it fresher, I actually OPEN the lid and let the steam out! Do you all know why? Basicly, all that steam goes back into the dough and makes it soggy, imo. One place that makes AMAZING fried pizza wraps it in plastic wrap if you get only a few slices. That crispy slice turns into a greasy sponge. Normal pizza ia affected too, not as much though. Trust me, it's better when they let it air out.
Andrews,, and to a lesser extent, rpn453, and anyone else with their point of view, please read this post! This is not a personal attack on anyone. I just want as many people as possible to get an accurate idea of why pizza guys deserve tips.
You guys who think you don't NEED to tip the pizza guy are WAAAAAAAAY off. Its absolutely vital. Without tips, there would be NO free pizza delivery.
Pizza guys should be tipped just as well as waitresses. 15%, or 2 dollars, whichever is more. If you live very far away, and/or the food gets there very fast (for example: if they quote 30-45 minutes, and its there in less than 30), consider tipping more.
We're not like the waiter/waitress who brings the food to your table? Gimme a break! Where the waitress gives you constant attention throughout your meal, the pizza guy drives ALL THE WAY TO YOUR HOUSE. We work just as hard, and provide you just as much service as they do, we just provide it in a different way.
We walk as far to our cars in the parking lot as house staff walks to your table. Then we get in our own cars, and drive all the way out to your house, saving you the trip. Then we have to find the house, which is no small feat, since many, many houses have house numbers hidden behind bushes or other objects, or no numbers at all. And at night, only about 30%-40% of our customers actually turn the light on for us. We risk driving through traffic and bad weather just to bring you food.
You say that we're paid a wage, and paid mileage. You say that that's plenty, and that we don't need tips. That's dead wrong:
We're paid minimum wage, which I have no complaint with, plus tips. Unfortunately, our bosses know that we get tipped, and rely on this to justify short changing us on our "mileage" reimbursement. I know for a fact, that in my area (small county with 100,000+ people), NOT ONE pizza joint pays a "mileage" reimbursment based on mileage. They pay on the amount of food delivered, or number of pizzas delivered. It doesn't matter how far you drove, just how many pizzas you delivered. It's all luck! I've made deliveries 6 miles from the restaurant, 12 miles round trip, and been "reimbursed" fifty cents for the trip!! That's not the exception, that's the norm!
Today was my last day of delivering; over 13 months (I'm sick of poor tipping), I averaged $0.15/mile in "mileage" reimbursement. Wow, that pays for gas, and a fraction of my wear and tear! The IRS says that it costs $0.405/mile to run a car, so that means that most pizza guys lose between 15-30 cents per mile, every mile, depending on how much food they deliver. 40-100 miles on the average day. Let me sum that up: without tips, we make less than minimum wage.
If people didn't tip, there would be no pizza delivery. "Noone forces them to deliver pizza." That's correct, we do it because of the promise of tips. We simply wouldn't do it if we did not get tipped. And don't think that just because the place charges a delivery fee, that it goes to the driver. It almost certainly goes straight into management's pocket, to cover their cost of employing the driver.
I can't imagine tipping a person who works behind a counter. Anyone who doesn't provide you with one on one attention, or doesn't use their personal vehicle and/or assets in a job, doesn't deserve a tip.
Pizza guys meet both of those requirements. We use our personal vehicles, at a loss, to provide personal service. I'll try to say this respectfully: If a person thinks that pizza guys don't deserve, make that NEED tips, then that person has absolutely no idea of what pizza delivery is like.
Bottom line, pizza guys work just as hard (harder in bad weather or rush hour) as waitresses to get your food to you, we just do it in a different way. We NEED tips to make up for the loss we take on "mileage reimbursement."
Pizza guys should be tipped just as well as waitresses. 15%, or 2 dollars, whichever is more. If you live very far away, and/or the food gets there very fast, consider tipping more.
Here's a great website which goes into greater detail than I have: Association of Pizza Delivery Drivers
You guys who think you don't NEED to tip the pizza guy are WAAAAAAAAY off. Its absolutely vital. Without tips, there would be NO free pizza delivery.
Pizza guys should be tipped just as well as waitresses. 15%, or 2 dollars, whichever is more. If you live very far away, and/or the food gets there very fast (for example: if they quote 30-45 minutes, and its there in less than 30), consider tipping more.
We're not like the waiter/waitress who brings the food to your table? Gimme a break! Where the waitress gives you constant attention throughout your meal, the pizza guy drives ALL THE WAY TO YOUR HOUSE. We work just as hard, and provide you just as much service as they do, we just provide it in a different way.
We walk as far to our cars in the parking lot as house staff walks to your table. Then we get in our own cars, and drive all the way out to your house, saving you the trip. Then we have to find the house, which is no small feat, since many, many houses have house numbers hidden behind bushes or other objects, or no numbers at all. And at night, only about 30%-40% of our customers actually turn the light on for us. We risk driving through traffic and bad weather just to bring you food.
You say that we're paid a wage, and paid mileage. You say that that's plenty, and that we don't need tips. That's dead wrong:
We're paid minimum wage, which I have no complaint with, plus tips. Unfortunately, our bosses know that we get tipped, and rely on this to justify short changing us on our "mileage" reimbursement. I know for a fact, that in my area (small county with 100,000+ people), NOT ONE pizza joint pays a "mileage" reimbursment based on mileage. They pay on the amount of food delivered, or number of pizzas delivered. It doesn't matter how far you drove, just how many pizzas you delivered. It's all luck! I've made deliveries 6 miles from the restaurant, 12 miles round trip, and been "reimbursed" fifty cents for the trip!! That's not the exception, that's the norm!
Today was my last day of delivering; over 13 months (I'm sick of poor tipping), I averaged $0.15/mile in "mileage" reimbursement. Wow, that pays for gas, and a fraction of my wear and tear! The IRS says that it costs $0.405/mile to run a car, so that means that most pizza guys lose between 15-30 cents per mile, every mile, depending on how much food they deliver. 40-100 miles on the average day. Let me sum that up: without tips, we make less than minimum wage.
If people didn't tip, there would be no pizza delivery. "Noone forces them to deliver pizza." That's correct, we do it because of the promise of tips. We simply wouldn't do it if we did not get tipped. And don't think that just because the place charges a delivery fee, that it goes to the driver. It almost certainly goes straight into management's pocket, to cover their cost of employing the driver.
I can't imagine tipping a person who works behind a counter. Anyone who doesn't provide you with one on one attention, or doesn't use their personal vehicle and/or assets in a job, doesn't deserve a tip.
Pizza guys meet both of those requirements. We use our personal vehicles, at a loss, to provide personal service. I'll try to say this respectfully: If a person thinks that pizza guys don't deserve, make that NEED tips, then that person has absolutely no idea of what pizza delivery is like.
Bottom line, pizza guys work just as hard (harder in bad weather or rush hour) as waitresses to get your food to you, we just do it in a different way. We NEED tips to make up for the loss we take on "mileage reimbursement."
Pizza guys should be tipped just as well as waitresses. 15%, or 2 dollars, whichever is more. If you live very far away, and/or the food gets there very fast, consider tipping more.
Here's a great website which goes into greater detail than I have: Association of Pizza Delivery Drivers
I get stiffed all the time delivering pizza. It doesn't upset me if people in low income areas round up to the next dollar but I really wish that some people would stop ordering from us.
The worst is when you are getting paid by credit card and the purchaser fills out the bill with a 0 for the tip and re-writes the origional price. There is one woman that does this and her house is a 50 minute round trip that includes half an hour of dirt road rally crossing. Atleast her husband gives a 10 dollar tip when he pays. We also cover 2 different towns that are half hour round trips and it is really dissapointing to get out there and receive excact change. I am losing money on those runs because I would have taken 5 local deliveries during the half hour and gotten 5 decent tips. I usually have my deliveries at the door within 15 minutes of ordering and I don't waste time unless I'm looking for a poorly marked house.
If things are busy the non-tippers are last to receive their food. If they ask for extra dip or whatever they don't get it because they aren't paying for my time.
My pay works out to 10 to 15 CDN an hour depending on the shift I'm working and I definately don't get to work a full 40 hour work week so the pay sucks. This doesn't include fuel, maintenance, taxes, insurance, depreciation, or anything else. So, if you don't tip don't order delivery.
Atleast it's usually a fun job where you get to chat with all sorts of different people for a couple seconds.
Steve
The worst is when you are getting paid by credit card and the purchaser fills out the bill with a 0 for the tip and re-writes the origional price. There is one woman that does this and her house is a 50 minute round trip that includes half an hour of dirt road rally crossing. Atleast her husband gives a 10 dollar tip when he pays. We also cover 2 different towns that are half hour round trips and it is really dissapointing to get out there and receive excact change. I am losing money on those runs because I would have taken 5 local deliveries during the half hour and gotten 5 decent tips. I usually have my deliveries at the door within 15 minutes of ordering and I don't waste time unless I'm looking for a poorly marked house.
If things are busy the non-tippers are last to receive their food. If they ask for extra dip or whatever they don't get it because they aren't paying for my time.
My pay works out to 10 to 15 CDN an hour depending on the shift I'm working and I definately don't get to work a full 40 hour work week so the pay sucks. This doesn't include fuel, maintenance, taxes, insurance, depreciation, or anything else. So, if you don't tip don't order delivery.
Steve
I dont like to tip but I do. I dont tip at sonic or when i pick something up.
I usually tip $2.00 for delivery. But it takes awhile so I like to pick it up. One think I don't like is a cold pizza that takes an hour+ to be delivered.
Of course it's not the driver's fault unless he gets lost turns into the freeway by mistake and needs to take a 360 turn to find the right address.
Of course it's not the driver's fault unless he gets lost turns into the freeway by mistake and needs to take a 360 turn to find the right address.
Nobody forces drivers to deliver pizzas anymore than anyone forces me to tip. Depending upon tips to pay for your gas/compensation is like throwing the dice. Why not hold out for better wages from your employer and forget about tips? If enough drivers decided that the wages are too low, the employers would face either raising wages for drivers or stopping the delivery service (never happen).
The only thing I tip for is a waiter/waitress. No amount of attempted guilt placement will stimulate me to give a tip to a freakin pizza driver. Sorry, but it's just a low end job. If you want to make money in tips, become a waiter.
The only thing I tip for is a waiter/waitress. No amount of attempted guilt placement will stimulate me to give a tip to a freakin pizza driver. Sorry, but it's just a low end job. If you want to make money in tips, become a waiter.
Andrews, you were a bit blunt, but right on the money.
I thought this topic was about pizza pick-up economics. There are are more tips here than a circumcision convention.
XS650,
Good or bad, being blunt is my trademark.
I'm really not trying to offend the pizza drivers out there, I'm just telling it like it is. I would honestly like to see them have an improved employment situation. I'm not a fan of unionizing, but if these drivers would demand higher compensation, and the employers would charge the customer a set delivery charge to pay for a portion of the higher wages, everybody would be happy.
Good or bad, being blunt is my trademark.
I'm really not trying to offend the pizza drivers out there, I'm just telling it like it is. I would honestly like to see them have an improved employment situation. I'm not a fan of unionizing, but if these drivers would demand higher compensation, and the employers would charge the customer a set delivery charge to pay for a portion of the higher wages, everybody would be happy.
That's not exactly "the way it is". The overwhelming majority of people I delivered to tipped. Many tipped well. I suppose you're the guy who demands change down to the penny at the door.
To me, tipping someone is a way for one person to show kindness to another.
As for tipping the barber, bagger, etc...I tip all three. I don't know how you grew up, what kind of jobs you have held or whatever, but as someone who has worked for the public in some way or another for many years, I remember what it was like. So, I tip.
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