Yeap, it does. I converted my P365X to an XL.
Wife considering Smith & Wesson SD40
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If you do not like recoil, these would not be a good choice, especially in 40......
Felt recoil is a personal thing, meaning it has to be felt by you, the shooter. No one can answer this for you. But, the SD9 and 40 dont have a bunch of slide mass, and therefore the spring must be "stiffer" to compensate for the low mass of the slide.....food for thought.
I have shot the SD9, and found the recoil impulse to be maybe slightly more than any other typical modern pistol. I would imagine the 40 would be a bit on the snappy side.
I do not own one, but my impressions of the gun were good, especially for the price. I do like the stainless slide. And it felt good in the hand.
Price or course is always a concern. For the money, I cant see much else out there that I would buy.
All that being said, the SD9 would be the lower recoil choice, and better overall....IMO
You can find police trade ins for that same ball park money, as others have said.
sig sucks, beyond the p22X series.
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The largest frame handgun that fits her hand and is comfortable to her. Heavier is better for home defense as is a longer barrel. Mail ordering a handgun that hasn't been handled isn't ideal.
Definitely avoid the .40, no matter how attractive the price.
The recoil is noticeably higher, and the ammo is more expensive, than the 9mm and the round isn’t any more effective if you choose the correct ammo.
The .40s are cheap because they’ve fallen out of favor.
That said, I have several .40s, and I love them, but they’re not a gun for a new shooter.
So, at the $300 point, what to get? I’ve seen lots of good reviews on the Canik, and a used M&P, CZ, or Glock would be a good choice as well.
Honest Outlaw is my favorite “gun tuber” and his opinions on guns are quite clear.
See if you can rent what you’re considering before buying it. How a gun feels in your hand at the counter and how it feels under recoil, can be vastly different.
The recoil is noticeably higher, and the ammo is more expensive, than the 9mm and the round isn’t any more effective if you choose the correct ammo.
The .40s are cheap because they’ve fallen out of favor.
That said, I have several .40s, and I love them, but they’re not a gun for a new shooter.
So, at the $300 point, what to get? I’ve seen lots of good reviews on the Canik, and a used M&P, CZ, or Glock would be a good choice as well.
Honest Outlaw is my favorite “gun tuber” and his opinions on guns are quite clear.
See if you can rent what you’re considering before buying it. How a gun feels in your hand at the counter and how it feels under recoil, can be vastly different.
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I agree, but wouldn’t necessarily collapse them down to the same. All things being equal, .40 does typically have more momentum and can penetrate slightly better.
Does it matter? Is it worth it? Nope, but there is still a small difference.
All things are never equal.
Further, even when they are all equal, the proper projectile in 9mm performs as well as the .40.
While offering lower recoil, faster follow up shots, and greater capacity, all of which are advantages.
Give this a watch - bottom line, it comes down to system performance -
That system is shooter, weapon, and projectile. Caliber doesn’t really enter into the equation.
Now, I own handguns in .22, 9mm, .38 SPL, .38 Super, .40 S&W, 10mm, .41 Magnum, .44 Magnum, .45 ACP and .45 Colt. I have them all for different reasons.
But we are talking about a new shooter here, and a female one at that, who is looking at a home defense gun. .40 is not a great choice. 9mm is better. And after watching that video, I don’t know that I need anything else for self defense beyond my choice of 9mm, much as I am a fan of the 10mm.
I would highly recommend the Sig P365 in .380 (add the XL frame and 12 round mags) and the Springfield Hellcat in .380 for women. If you want a gun that will double in value I would also highly recommend the now rare and discontinued Glock 25.
If she has tried a 9mm and can handle the recoil, the Ruger RXM walks circles around the Smith SD series.
Avoid .40 at all cost.
If it’s home defense gun, make sure to get a flashlight mounted to it. Home defense guns should always 1000% have a flashlight mounted to them if possible.
If she has tried a 9mm and can handle the recoil, the Ruger RXM walks circles around the Smith SD series.
Avoid .40 at all cost.
If it’s home defense gun, make sure to get a flashlight mounted to it. Home defense guns should always 1000% have a flashlight mounted to them if possible.
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Nuance is not advocacy. If you read the thread closely you’ll see this response is unwarranted.
Ruger Security .380. The slide is very easy to manipulate.
Don't overlook a .357 magnum revolver. They can also shoot. 38 Special.
Agreed. 9mm is adequate for human all defensive needs. But keep the 10mm for Bears.
Just bought my little sister one. Nice gun.
I'm a fan of revolvers for ladies as well. No slide to rack. Just pick up and start shooting.
I gave you a detailed, and nuanced, reply.
Caliber considered in isolation is purely academic.
It’s the caliber as a part of a system that matters.
Otherwise, 10mm for everybody.
It’s the best caliber.
I had the original SD in 40 caliber. It was stone cold reliable and inexpensive. Not very refined but it did the job. No reason to think the 2.0 would be any different. Only sold it due to moving over to 9mm. That is what I’d recommend. 9mm is the way to go.
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You linked a YouTube video that says exactly what I said: it’s not worth the trade offs. I’m not sure what you’re arguing here.
I agree with you, I was just pointing out they are not ballistically identical. If that’s not what you intended to imply, fine, I’m just clarifying.
We'll head to some shops and check on the Ruger Security 380 and Kahr. She's not really too keen on a revolver.
Thanks for the advice.
Thanks for the advice.
Shop by me has a Valentine sale.
One other easy racking .380. It does have a grip safety and could be a drawback for some shooters.
https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/m-p-380-shield-ez-manual-thumb-safety
I'm with @Astro14, 10mm. Go big or go home. /thread 
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Like every other suggestion, 9mm is a fine and effective round for defensive purposes. Lots of guns out there that chamber it too. My personal favs are the Glock G19 (or G17), Ruger RXM, and S&W M&P 2.0. Have a tiny neighbor that shoots the daylights out of her G17, but does not like smaller framed guns. Gotta try a few before settling on one. Any of these you can get used for a reasonable price vs. new, especially the latter 2. No matter what she likes/chooses, it is absolutely imperative that she be comfortable and confident with shooting it. AT the moment of truth is not the time to have any doubts about your defensive weapon. Shoot the bejeezuz out of it to build that confidence and muscle memory. Waking up and being expected to perform effectively is not an easy task. Make a plan and train together in the environment you expect to defend (NO loaded weapons, NO ammo. Check, double check, triple check). Making the response second nature will buy valuable time and go a long way to a positive outcome. Remember, the gun is just a small part of the equation.
.Like every other suggestion, 9mm is a fine and effective round for defensive purposes. Lots of guns out there that chamber it too. My personal favs are the Glock G19 (or G17), Ruger RXM, and S&W M&P 2.0. Have a tiny neighbor that shoots the daylights out of her G17, but does not like smaller framed guns. Gotta try a few before settling on one. Any of these you can get used for a reasonable price vs. new, especially the latter 2. No matter what she likes/chooses, it is absolutely imperative that she be comfortable and confident with shooting it. AT the moment of truth is not the time to have any doubts about your defensive weapon. Shoot the bejeezuz out of it to build that confidence and muscle memory. Waking up and being expected to perform effectively is not an easy task. Make a plan and train together in the environment you expect to defend (NO loaded weapons, NO ammo. Check, double check, triple check). Making the response second nature will buy valuable time and go a long way to a positive outcome. Remember, the gun is just a small part of the equation.
Agree about the Ruger Security.380.
I'm getting one this spring. Was about to buy one last year but changed direction and bought a Taurus Tx22 TORO.
The suggestion of a solid snub nose revolver is a good one.
Plenty of top notch defensive ammunition out there in .38 and .38+P....357 is a bit challenging in a 4" so there's that plus, it's got to have a heavier frame.
The new no lock S&W Model 36 is brilliant.
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