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Originally Posted By: dlundblad
I understand your situation, but how is that any different than walking into a parked car, a curb, a light post?
A car or post is large enough to be easily identified by your peripheral vision, even if you are keenly focused on something else. A sidewalk curb is out in the open. Hitches are at shin level, and can be in the dark.
I understand your situation, but how is that any different than walking into a parked car, a curb, a light post?
A car or post is large enough to be easily identified by your peripheral vision, even if you are keenly focused on something else. A sidewalk curb is out in the open. Hitches are at shin level, and can be in the dark.
Originally Posted By: dishdude
The only person having a fit in this thread is you.
....because describing how you'd remove a hitch ball from a total stranger's vehicle to throw through their car window is not "having a fit" at all. Sounds perfectly calm, rational, and reasonable to me.
The only person having a fit in this thread is you.
....because describing how you'd remove a hitch ball from a total stranger's vehicle to throw through their car window is not "having a fit" at all. Sounds perfectly calm, rational, and reasonable to me.
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
It amazes me the number of people having a fit over this and claiming they can't see them and walk into them all the time. I am just 46 but that is still 46 years. I have NEVER walked into a ball mount in a parking lot. NEVER. Not at night( lighted, dimly lighted, pitch black dark )and not in the day. As said earlier the only time I have banged my shin on one was while loading/unloading something from the vehicle.
Not "having a fit" at all, but just responding to this topic:
Once I remember I was in a parking lot with a 4 year old and an infant in my arms. After shopping, I added a box and a bag to carry. With a child and the stuff in one arm, and holding the 4 year old by the hand, and WATCHING FOR CARS to protect my children, I did indeed bang smack into a long hitch & ball someone had sticking out. Thankfully I did not fall over with an infant in my arms.
Yeah, its easy to smash your shin, when more important things have your attention.
So you walk through parking lots with your 4 year old between you and traffic? I always have my daughter walk to the inside...maybe because in my mind its the moving cars that is the danger rather then the parked ones.....and she has never ran into a ball mount either. Its a sad day when you realize that an 8 year old is able to avoid walking into parked cars, and a lot of adults on BITOG cannot accomplish the simple task of walking without running into immovable objects.
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
It amazes me the number of people having a fit over this and claiming they can't see them and walk into them all the time. I am just 46 but that is still 46 years. I have NEVER walked into a ball mount in a parking lot. NEVER. Not at night( lighted, dimly lighted, pitch black dark )and not in the day. As said earlier the only time I have banged my shin on one was while loading/unloading something from the vehicle.
Not "having a fit" at all, but just responding to this topic:
Once I remember I was in a parking lot with a 4 year old and an infant in my arms. After shopping, I added a box and a bag to carry. With a child and the stuff in one arm, and holding the 4 year old by the hand, and WATCHING FOR CARS to protect my children, I did indeed bang smack into a long hitch & ball someone had sticking out. Thankfully I did not fall over with an infant in my arms.
Yeah, its easy to smash your shin, when more important things have your attention.
So you walk through parking lots with your 4 year old between you and traffic? I always have my daughter walk to the inside...maybe because in my mind its the moving cars that is the danger rather then the parked ones.....and she has never ran into a ball mount either. Its a sad day when you realize that an 8 year old is able to avoid walking into parked cars, and a lot of adults on BITOG cannot accomplish the simple task of walking without running into immovable objects.
^^^LOL some of us aren't the brightest bulbs in the pack. Ya gotta look out for us.
Funny that I see this thread the day that my GF just bumped into a car that had a hitch sticking out that it damaged her bumper.
It really wasn't her fault, in my opinion, because the driver in front of her had non-working tail lights. It all happened at a red light.
At least it didn't seem to damage the AC condenser and radiator.
It really wasn't her fault, in my opinion, because the driver in front of her had non-working tail lights. It all happened at a red light.
At least it didn't seem to damage the AC condenser and radiator.
Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
I understand your situation, but how is that any different than walking into a parked car, a curb, a light post?
Those items are at eye level.
Here's an interesting watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTPxZ1n4M-M
Originally Posted By: accent2012
Funny that I see this thread the day that my GF just bumped into a car that had a hitch sticking out that it damaged her bumper.
It really wasn't her fault, in my opinion, because the driver in front of her had non-working tail lights. It all happened at a red light.
At least it didn't seem to damage the AC condenser and radiator.
That would be her fault for following too closely and hitting from behind. Especially so at a red light.
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
I understand your situation, but how is that any different than walking into a parked car, a curb, a light post?
Those items are at eye level.
Here's an interesting watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTPxZ1n4M-M
Originally Posted By: accent2012
Funny that I see this thread the day that my GF just bumped into a car that had a hitch sticking out that it damaged her bumper.
It really wasn't her fault, in my opinion, because the driver in front of her had non-working tail lights. It all happened at a red light.
At least it didn't seem to damage the AC condenser and radiator.
That would be her fault for following too closely and hitting from behind. Especially so at a red light.
Originally Posted By: accent2012
Funny that I see this thread the day that my GF just bumped into a car that had a hitch sticking out that it damaged her bumper.
It really wasn't her fault, in my opinion, because the driver in front of her had non-working tail lights. It all happened at a red light.
At least it didn't seem to damage the AC condenser and radiator.
No offense, but this is a perfect example of why people leave them in. Why would she be within 6' of the truck in front? Brake lights or not? And if she was so distracted that she came within 1' of the truck, odds are she would've hit it anyways...
So now its her problem and not the truck drivers problem that she bumped into his truck.
Funny that I see this thread the day that my GF just bumped into a car that had a hitch sticking out that it damaged her bumper.
It really wasn't her fault, in my opinion, because the driver in front of her had non-working tail lights. It all happened at a red light.
At least it didn't seem to damage the AC condenser and radiator.
No offense, but this is a perfect example of why people leave them in. Why would she be within 6' of the truck in front? Brake lights or not? And if she was so distracted that she came within 1' of the truck, odds are she would've hit it anyways...
So now its her problem and not the truck drivers problem that she bumped into his truck.
Maybe I missed it in the previous 8 pages of this stupendous thread, but why is it a "perfect example of why people leave them in"? To try and prevent the rear-ending from happening somehow? To protect the car with the hitch? To teach the other person some kind of lesson? I missed why it was a perfect example of why you would leave it in, and what benefit there was.
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
No offense, but this is a perfect example of why people leave them in. Why would she be within 6' of the truck in front? Brake lights or not? And if she was so distracted that she came within 1' of the truck, odds are she would've hit it anyways...
So now its her problem and not the truck drivers problem that she bumped into his truck.
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
No offense, but this is a perfect example of why people leave them in. Why would she be within 6' of the truck in front? Brake lights or not? And if she was so distracted that she came within 1' of the truck, odds are she would've hit it anyways...
So now its her problem and not the truck drivers problem that she bumped into his truck.
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Maybe I missed it in the previous 8 pages of this stupendous thread, but why is it a "perfect example of why people leave them in"? To try and prevent the rear-ending from happening somehow? To protect the car with the hitch? To teach the other person some kind of lesson? I missed why it was a perfect example of why you would leave it in, and what benefit there was.
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
No offense, but this is a perfect example of why people leave them in. Why would she be within 6' of the truck in front? Brake lights or not? And if she was so distracted that she came within 1' of the truck, odds are she would've hit it anyways...
So now its her problem and not the truck drivers problem that she bumped into his truck.
In the case mentioned the damage was only done to the girl's car who was tailgating/not paying attention. The ball mount prevented any damage to the other vehicle that got rear ended.
I don't leave my ball mount in for this reason BUT I have been rear ended a bunch of times( sitting at light/intersection, waiting to enter a rotary, while PARKED! )with the hitch in and it never did any damage to me. The other guy though =
Maybe I missed it in the previous 8 pages of this stupendous thread, but why is it a "perfect example of why people leave them in"? To try and prevent the rear-ending from happening somehow? To protect the car with the hitch? To teach the other person some kind of lesson? I missed why it was a perfect example of why you would leave it in, and what benefit there was.
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
No offense, but this is a perfect example of why people leave them in. Why would she be within 6' of the truck in front? Brake lights or not? And if she was so distracted that she came within 1' of the truck, odds are she would've hit it anyways...
So now its her problem and not the truck drivers problem that she bumped into his truck.
In the case mentioned the damage was only done to the girl's car who was tailgating/not paying attention. The ball mount prevented any damage to the other vehicle that got rear ended.
I don't leave my ball mount in for this reason BUT I have been rear ended a bunch of times( sitting at light/intersection, waiting to enter a rotary, while PARKED! )with the hitch in and it never did any damage to me. The other guy though =
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Maybe I missed it in the previous 8 pages of this stupendous thread, but why is it a "perfect example of why people leave them in"? To try and prevent the rear-ending from happening somehow? To protect the car with the hitch? To teach the other person some kind of lesson? I missed why it was a perfect example of why you would leave it in, and what benefit there was.
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
No offense, but this is a perfect example of why people leave them in. Why would she be within 6' of the truck in front? Brake lights or not? And if she was so distracted that she came within 1' of the truck, odds are she would've hit it anyways...
So now its her problem and not the truck drivers problem that she bumped into his truck.
In the case mentioned the damage was only done to the girl's car who was tailgating/not paying attention. The ball mount prevented any damage to the other vehicle that got rear ended.
I don't leave my ball mount in for this reason BUT I have been rear ended a bunch of times( sitting at light/intersection, waiting to enter a rotary, while PARKED! )with the hitch in and it never did any damage to me. The other guy though =
If you are always aware of your surroundings and always watching where you are going, how do you get rear ended a bunch of times. As a defensive motorcycle rider you would always make sure the person behind you has enough room to stop by leaving a few feet in front of you to leave yourself an out, then roll ahead as they come to a stop to leave a little more room. Apparently leaving the ball mount isn't working out so well for preventing accidents. Plus they look like [censored] hanging off the back.
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Maybe I missed it in the previous 8 pages of this stupendous thread, but why is it a "perfect example of why people leave them in"? To try and prevent the rear-ending from happening somehow? To protect the car with the hitch? To teach the other person some kind of lesson? I missed why it was a perfect example of why you would leave it in, and what benefit there was.
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
No offense, but this is a perfect example of why people leave them in. Why would she be within 6' of the truck in front? Brake lights or not? And if she was so distracted that she came within 1' of the truck, odds are she would've hit it anyways...
So now its her problem and not the truck drivers problem that she bumped into his truck.
In the case mentioned the damage was only done to the girl's car who was tailgating/not paying attention. The ball mount prevented any damage to the other vehicle that got rear ended.
I don't leave my ball mount in for this reason BUT I have been rear ended a bunch of times( sitting at light/intersection, waiting to enter a rotary, while PARKED! )with the hitch in and it never did any damage to me. The other guy though =
If you are always aware of your surroundings and always watching where you are going, how do you get rear ended a bunch of times. As a defensive motorcycle rider you would always make sure the person behind you has enough room to stop by leaving a few feet in front of you to leave yourself an out, then roll ahead as they come to a stop to leave a little more room. Apparently leaving the ball mount isn't working out so well for preventing accidents. Plus they look like [censored] hanging off the back.
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Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Maybe I missed it in the previous 8 pages of this stupendous thread, but why is it a "perfect example of why people leave them in"? To try and prevent the rear-ending from happening somehow? To protect the car with the hitch? To teach the other person some kind of lesson? I missed why it was a perfect example of why you would leave it in, and what benefit there was.
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
No offense, but this is a perfect example of why people leave them in. Why would she be within 6' of the truck in front? Brake lights or not? And if she was so distracted that she came within 1' of the truck, odds are she would've hit it anyways...
So now its her problem and not the truck drivers problem that she bumped into his truck.
In the case mentioned the damage was only done to the girl's car who was tailgating/not paying attention. The ball mount prevented any damage to the other vehicle that got rear ended.
I don't leave my ball mount in for this reason BUT I have been rear ended a bunch of times( sitting at light/intersection, waiting to enter a rotary, while PARKED! )with the hitch in and it never did any damage to me. The other guy though =
Actually no...
Without functional tailights the vehicle had no right to be on the road. Her liability ends right there. If the lights were functional then it would be her fault.
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Maybe I missed it in the previous 8 pages of this stupendous thread, but why is it a "perfect example of why people leave them in"? To try and prevent the rear-ending from happening somehow? To protect the car with the hitch? To teach the other person some kind of lesson? I missed why it was a perfect example of why you would leave it in, and what benefit there was.
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
No offense, but this is a perfect example of why people leave them in. Why would she be within 6' of the truck in front? Brake lights or not? And if she was so distracted that she came within 1' of the truck, odds are she would've hit it anyways...
So now its her problem and not the truck drivers problem that she bumped into his truck.
In the case mentioned the damage was only done to the girl's car who was tailgating/not paying attention. The ball mount prevented any damage to the other vehicle that got rear ended.
I don't leave my ball mount in for this reason BUT I have been rear ended a bunch of times( sitting at light/intersection, waiting to enter a rotary, while PARKED! )with the hitch in and it never did any damage to me. The other guy though =
Actually no...
Without functional tailights the vehicle had no right to be on the road. Her liability ends right there. If the lights were functional then it would be her fault.
Originally Posted By: Thermo1223
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Maybe I missed it in the previous 8 pages of this stupendous thread, but why is it a "perfect example of why people leave them in"? To try and prevent the rear-ending from happening somehow? To protect the car with the hitch? To teach the other person some kind of lesson? I missed why it was a perfect example of why you would leave it in, and what benefit there was.
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
No offense, but this is a perfect example of why people leave them in. Why would she be within 6' of the truck in front? Brake lights or not? And if she was so distracted that she came within 1' of the truck, odds are she would've hit it anyways...
So now its her problem and not the truck drivers problem that she bumped into his truck.
In the case mentioned the damage was only done to the girl's car who was tailgating/not paying attention. The ball mount prevented any damage to the other vehicle that got rear ended.
I don't leave my ball mount in for this reason BUT I have been rear ended a bunch of times( sitting at light/intersection, waiting to enter a rotary, while PARKED! )with the hitch in and it never did any damage to me. The other guy though =
Actually no...
Without functional tailights the vehicle had no right to be on the road. Her liability ends right there. If the lights were functional then it would be her fault.
Bingo
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Maybe I missed it in the previous 8 pages of this stupendous thread, but why is it a "perfect example of why people leave them in"? To try and prevent the rear-ending from happening somehow? To protect the car with the hitch? To teach the other person some kind of lesson? I missed why it was a perfect example of why you would leave it in, and what benefit there was.
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
No offense, but this is a perfect example of why people leave them in. Why would she be within 6' of the truck in front? Brake lights or not? And if she was so distracted that she came within 1' of the truck, odds are she would've hit it anyways...
So now its her problem and not the truck drivers problem that she bumped into his truck.
In the case mentioned the damage was only done to the girl's car who was tailgating/not paying attention. The ball mount prevented any damage to the other vehicle that got rear ended.
I don't leave my ball mount in for this reason BUT I have been rear ended a bunch of times( sitting at light/intersection, waiting to enter a rotary, while PARKED! )with the hitch in and it never did any damage to me. The other guy though =
Actually no...
Without functional tailights the vehicle had no right to be on the road. Her liability ends right there. If the lights were functional then it would be her fault.
Bingo
Actually, it's not bingo. The operator of a vehicle needs to be in complete control at all times. If they were stopped at a red light and she hit the vehicle in front of her, regardless of it's condition or state of repair, it would be her fault.
How does a ball hitch prevent any damage?
They simply cause more damage to the vehicle hitting by poking it but rarely a point load like that can stop an entire vehicle. The vehicle still gets hit.
Walking to work I watched a young girl with bad clutch in 2dr Explorer who was parallel parking nail a hitch damaging her bumper on the hitch but it poked through. The Jeep bumper in front got pretty scratched up in the process. I think its false security.
They simply cause more damage to the vehicle hitting by poking it but rarely a point load like that can stop an entire vehicle. The vehicle still gets hit.
Walking to work I watched a young girl with bad clutch in 2dr Explorer who was parallel parking nail a hitch damaging her bumper on the hitch but it poked through. The Jeep bumper in front got pretty scratched up in the process. I think its false security.
Originally Posted By: Zaedock
Actually, it's not bingo. The operator of a vehicle needs to be in complete control at all times. If they were stopped at a red light and she hit the vehicle in front of her, regardless of it's condition or state of repair, it would be her fault.
No, that is only for perfect conditions. It is very open to it's interpretation. You have a reasonable responsibility to be in control of the vehicle at all times.
You can't drive a vehicle with non-functioning safety systems and expect a free pass.
Now I am arguing to just bumping or light damage. If you slam the bumper at full speed then functioning taillights would have done little to prevent such an accident. The person wouldn't have been able to stop in time regardless.
Actually, it's not bingo. The operator of a vehicle needs to be in complete control at all times. If they were stopped at a red light and she hit the vehicle in front of her, regardless of it's condition or state of repair, it would be her fault.
No, that is only for perfect conditions. It is very open to it's interpretation. You have a reasonable responsibility to be in control of the vehicle at all times.
You can't drive a vehicle with non-functioning safety systems and expect a free pass.
Now I am arguing to just bumping or light damage. If you slam the bumper at full speed then functioning taillights would have done little to prevent such an accident. The person wouldn't have been able to stop in time regardless.
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We are way off topic now...Please thread...die.
Still talking about the accident someone previously mentioned involving a ball hitch. How is that OT?
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