Why ICE is here to stay for some time?

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I feel the same way as you. When someone tries to force something on me I push back, I've done so as a child and I'm not going to stop now. I had a good laugh seeing what hail did to a solar farm in Nebraska, I guess the engineers didn't figure hail could damage the panels. For this green pipe dream to work they're going to need a lot more than solar and wind. Nuclear is the key, and many fear it.
My panels are guaranteed against hail and winds, among other things. Of course we rarely see hail around here...
I asked those questions before buying and read the warranty.
 

Why ICE is here to stay for some time?​

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Over 90% of new cars in Norway and Iceland are electric now. 25% in England, 15% in Germany, 35% in China, 7% in the US. They're getting better, cheaper, and more common all the time.
Just so others do not take your statement wrong,

2% of vehicles on the road in Germany are EVs...
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1166826/electric-vehicles-market-share-germany/

EV penetration in the USA is 1%

BTW the population of Norway is less than Long Island NY

The question will be when will the saturation point come? The USA at 1% I predict 10 to 25% at most for the next 30 years or until EVs can produce their own electricity such as h2 EVs.
 
My panels are guaranteed against hail and winds, among other things. Of course we rarely see hail around here...
I asked those questions before buying and read the warranty.
Well I guess they bought the wrong panels in Nebraska then, or they were defects.
 
Maybe there are people in power there who actually use their brain. ;)
We all knew that would happen and it will happen here. People still believe what they are told and as long as they do there will be people who grandstand on an idea that isnt and never will be possible as far as current battery powered EVs being mainstream. I mean the idea is so ridiculous that I really overestimated the general public that they would believe such a thing and for yet another idea (carbon emissions) that they are told yet cant see.
 
https://www.project-syndicate.org/c...DtTJftR34ItRH_U-VYGHFu7GZ-NvYRoiR64FOGBzsdl5s

"The problem is that the same materials and equipment are also used to produce less advanced chips. China currently produces roughly 20% of the world’s semiconductors, mostly the low-end and mid-range varieties integral to electric vehicles (EVs), medical devices, consumer electronics, and industrial components. The Western export and investment restrictions will undermine many of these Chinese industries, negatively affecting not only their global competitiveness but also domestic employment, income, and tax revenues. These effects make the Chinese very skeptical of Sullivan’s “small yard” and less willing to cooperate on other global issues."

"The problem is that the same materials and equipment are also used to produce less advanced chips. China currently produces roughly 20% of the world’s semiconductors, mostly the low-end and mid-range varieties integral to electric vehicles (EVs), medical devices, consumer electronics, and industrial components. The Western export and investment restrictions will undermine many of these Chinese industries, negatively affecting not only their global competitiveness but also domestic employment, income, and tax revenues. These effects make the Chinese very skeptical of Sullivan’s “small yard” and less willing to cooperate on other global issues."
 
We all knew that would happen and it will happen here. People still believe what they are told and as long as they do there will be people who grandstand on an idea that isnt and never will be possible as far as current battery powered EVs being mainstream. I mean the idea is so ridiculous that I really overestimated the general public that they would believe such a thing and for yet another idea (carbon emissions) that they are told yet cant see.
I'm hoping so, maybe in 2024 with a swipe of a pen. ;)
 
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Well I guess they bought the wrong panels in Nebraska then, or they were defects.
The guarantee does not mean they won't get damaged; it just means they will be replaced if they get damaged. Of course this is very important, because weather happens. Different companies offer different warranties. Some panels are better than others. Installation counts and has to be inspected and signed off on before electric company pulls the switch. I was not gonna go into this expensive (risky?) investment without a basic understanding of what I was buying. A big decision was going with an established company like Sunrun or a smaller company that might not be around when I needed them.
 
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Really? I respectfully disagree. The government trying to create and/or manipulate supply and demand is an element of central planning. That certainly quacks, swims, and looks like a duck. Because it IS a duck.
Capitalism without strong government is impossible. A guy by the name of Adam Smith argued that. Governments ALWAYS manipulate supply and demand through various tools, tariffs, customs, taxes, regulations etc.
Central planning is FAR, FAR from it. Research what central planning is. Just bcs. you do not like something, does not mean it is a communist conspiracy.
 
Yes, that's what I was referring to. So much for a guarantee against hail. I'm sure in SO Cal and Florida they're just fine. I'd imagine a good windstorm could blow them away too. I guess they were still in beta testing.
Florida is a bad example. Really anyplace that gets severe thunderstorms and tornadoes are at risk. Granted Florida is not in the top ten but they get some heavy duty storms.
I was surprised to see NC and SC in the top ten and Nebraska too. (sorry about the source *LOL* I am sure you know what I mean, showed up in a search though)
You can do a search for top ten states of hail... the problem with them is if a rural state the claims will put it down the list... but a solar farm doesnt care about rural or not... so really need actual data not insurance data

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/26/weather/severe-storms-flooding-wednesday/index.html
 
The guarantee does not mean they won't get damaged; it just means they will be replaced if they get damaged. Of course this is very important, because weather happens.
I know what a guarantee means, now they can replace them, hopefully they have to eat the cost of the labor to replace them too. Clearly the tech is not that great in hail prone areas to get wrecked like that. You'd think they'd have more sense than that to use it there, maybe a good lesson will come from this. ;)
 
Florida is a bad example. Really anyplace that gets severe thunderstorms and tornadoes are at risk. Granted Florida is not in the top ten but they get some heavy duty storms.
I was surprised to see NC and SC in the top ten and Nebraska too. (sorry about the source *LOL* I am sure you know what I mean, showed up in a search though)
You can do a search for top ten states of hail... the problem with them is if a rural state the claims will put it down the list... but a solar farm doesnt care about rural or not... so really need actual data not insurance data

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/26/weather/severe-storms-flooding-wednesday/index.html
You're right cross Florida off the list. That just makes my point even better though, they better think long and hard about destroying the landscape with solar farms, they're not ready for prime time IMO. Just what we need more crap in the landfills.
 
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