Why do you prefer W11 over W10
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I like Windows 10 better than 11. 10 is a lot less complicated and is simpler to use. I once thought 11 was good but now it has gotten so bloated with useless and un-needed "features" I don't care for it at all any more. I really don't care for the crypto and AI/Bing/Chat GPT robot garbage either. Hopefully "Windows 12" will be better, but I have been using Linux Mint since March and am pretty happy with it. For my use, Mint has nowhere near the amount of problems that Windows has.
The last 3 or so years I have been running Linux but the laptop that I just bought has issues with Linux and the speakers for the moment until they update the kernel to support it. I was going to revert back to Windows 10 after playing with WIn 11 but then I found Chris Titus's windows debloat tool. His tool can make Win 11 similar to Win 10 and get rid of a lot of unneeded junk. After running his tool I'll stick with Win 11 until Linux gets up to speed with my new hardware.
Debloat windows tool
Debloat windows tool
That's my only gripe with Win11 on a non-administrative side. The computer manufactures user to be the ones who put the junk on your computer, now it's Microsoft doing it too. I don't need or wasn't Spotify/Teams/Meetup/xbox on a fresh install of Windows 11. If I wanted an OS that came with all that, is just get a Chromebook.
I have been down the computer rabbit hole in the last few months myself.
I still have Windows 11 on my newest laptop, it's a Lenovo L340, about 3 1/2 years old. When I first did the dual boot with Mint I did it on that L340 and made some mistakes and had to clean reinstall 11. After that I de-bloated it the best I could with Wintoys, which is a free app in the MS Store. Wintoys can turn off and remove Windows apps that otherwise have no removal command in the app settings. I also used the free version of Revo Uninstaller to remove Windows bloat and leftover files, then to really clean it up I ran the Everything utility from Voidtools to manually delete any other leftover files. After the mistakes I made with Mint on my L340 I don't want to make any other changes to it now, but I don't use it very much anymore either.
I had an older Lenovo Ideapad 110, it was about 6 or 7 years old, running Windows 10. The battery went bad and when I took the laptop apart a few weeks ago to match up the battery and order a new one I disconnected the ribbon cable for the keyboard and the connector basically disintegrated and tore all the connecting pins loose at the motherboard. I could possibly have replaced the mobo with a used Ebay part but the laptop also had other problems and I just considered it not really worth the trouble to fix it. I could have bought a working 110 off Ebay for about the same price as a used and questionable mobo. I pulled the hard drive out of my 110 and trashed the carcass.
I also have a 10 year old Toshiba Satellite laptop, it is the very first laptop I ever bought. After my dual boot problems I wanted to try Linux on it, figuring I had nothing to lose if it didn't work. I dug it out of the closet, found it had a bad battery too, would not even turn on unless it was plugged in to the wall charger. I got a new battery from Amazon for $20.00 and it was much easier to replace. Just removed two screws out of the bottom panel and it slid right out from under the case. That old Toshiba had 4 GB of Ram with a 500 GB hard drive and Mint still ran perfectly fine on it but it was a little slow to start up. I added an 8 GB memory card to it and it ran a lot better.
I ran Mint on the Toshiba for a while but I still wanted another Windows 10 laptop after I broke the keyboard connector on my 110, so I dug my wife's second to last laptop out of the closet. It's a Lenovo Ideapad 310, built in October 2016. It is still in good shape, still has a good battery and 8 GB of Ram with a 1 TB hard drive. I cleaned up the old leftover junk files from it and then reinstalled Windows 10 on it and to get it back to a newer condition. Dual boot just does not work well for me so I put Mint 21.1 on the 310 and let the installer remove Windows. Then I did a new clean install of Windows 10 on my old Toshiba, which really works well with the new battery and additional RAM.
I work from home and keep the Toshiba Windows 10 laptop in my home office upstairs in case I need it for personal use during the day. I also upgraded this Ideapad to Mint 21.2. It works great and Mint runs perfectly on it. I hardly ever use my Windows 11 laptop. My job issued me a Chromebook so I don't use Windows at all for work. For my own use, Linux is much better than Windows, but if I ever do need Windows I use 10. I don't care at all for what Windows 11, Bing and Edge have become. I do still fire up my 10 and 11 laptops at least a couple times a month to check for updates. If my Linux Ideapad ever bites the dust, I will probably switch my L340 over to Linux.
I still have Windows 11 on my newest laptop, it's a Lenovo L340, about 3 1/2 years old. When I first did the dual boot with Mint I did it on that L340 and made some mistakes and had to clean reinstall 11. After that I de-bloated it the best I could with Wintoys, which is a free app in the MS Store. Wintoys can turn off and remove Windows apps that otherwise have no removal command in the app settings. I also used the free version of Revo Uninstaller to remove Windows bloat and leftover files, then to really clean it up I ran the Everything utility from Voidtools to manually delete any other leftover files. After the mistakes I made with Mint on my L340 I don't want to make any other changes to it now, but I don't use it very much anymore either.
I had an older Lenovo Ideapad 110, it was about 6 or 7 years old, running Windows 10. The battery went bad and when I took the laptop apart a few weeks ago to match up the battery and order a new one I disconnected the ribbon cable for the keyboard and the connector basically disintegrated and tore all the connecting pins loose at the motherboard. I could possibly have replaced the mobo with a used Ebay part but the laptop also had other problems and I just considered it not really worth the trouble to fix it. I could have bought a working 110 off Ebay for about the same price as a used and questionable mobo. I pulled the hard drive out of my 110 and trashed the carcass.
I also have a 10 year old Toshiba Satellite laptop, it is the very first laptop I ever bought. After my dual boot problems I wanted to try Linux on it, figuring I had nothing to lose if it didn't work. I dug it out of the closet, found it had a bad battery too, would not even turn on unless it was plugged in to the wall charger. I got a new battery from Amazon for $20.00 and it was much easier to replace. Just removed two screws out of the bottom panel and it slid right out from under the case. That old Toshiba had 4 GB of Ram with a 500 GB hard drive and Mint still ran perfectly fine on it but it was a little slow to start up. I added an 8 GB memory card to it and it ran a lot better.
I ran Mint on the Toshiba for a while but I still wanted another Windows 10 laptop after I broke the keyboard connector on my 110, so I dug my wife's second to last laptop out of the closet. It's a Lenovo Ideapad 310, built in October 2016. It is still in good shape, still has a good battery and 8 GB of Ram with a 1 TB hard drive. I cleaned up the old leftover junk files from it and then reinstalled Windows 10 on it and to get it back to a newer condition. Dual boot just does not work well for me so I put Mint 21.1 on the 310 and let the installer remove Windows. Then I did a new clean install of Windows 10 on my old Toshiba, which really works well with the new battery and additional RAM.
I work from home and keep the Toshiba Windows 10 laptop in my home office upstairs in case I need it for personal use during the day. I also upgraded this Ideapad to Mint 21.2. It works great and Mint runs perfectly on it. I hardly ever use my Windows 11 laptop. My job issued me a Chromebook so I don't use Windows at all for work. For my own use, Linux is much better than Windows, but if I ever do need Windows I use 10. I don't care at all for what Windows 11, Bing and Edge have become. I do still fire up my 10 and 11 laptops at least a couple times a month to check for updates. If my Linux Ideapad ever bites the dust, I will probably switch my L340 over to Linux.
Another way of debloating Windows is when you do a fresh install of widows 11 you see a choice for time and currency format DO NOT SELECT English United States. Select English World instead. When you see a window pop up that says something went wrong select skip Windows will then install without all the extra junk. Microsoft Store will even be disabled, you can re enable it later on if you need it. Then run Chris Titus debloat tool.
By selecting English World Microsoft has to abide by every countries laws and requirements so its just a plain install with no tic tok, ect.
By selecting English World Microsoft has to abide by every countries laws and requirements so its just a plain install with no tic tok, ect.
back when win8 came out and I decided to try it, I remember installing a program that would turn off some of the stupid stuff and bring the star menu back to normal. It worked very well after that and I actually liked it.
But still I didn’t use it long term, because if I need third party apps to use the OS, it is not really a good product. Plus these changes may not be permanent and be wiped away with an update. I’m not going through a hassle like this when win 10 is still working great.
But still I didn’t use it long term, because if I need third party apps to use the OS, it is not really a good product. Plus these changes may not be permanent and be wiped away with an update. I’m not going through a hassle like this when win 10 is still working great.
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