Who really needs gig Internet?

I now have Spectrum Ultra which is 500Mbps down by 20Mbps up. Recently they bumped it from 400->500.

Runs well, on a Docsis 3.1 Arris SB8200, I can see about 580Mbps down and 23Mbps up. Fast.com must always over-hyper, but that'll return me speeds of 780Mbps... wild.

A single Aruba Instant-On AP22 WiFi-6 AX access point feeds my house mounted in my attic. Good coverage. It is fed Gigabit by an Aruba Instant-On 8-port 1930 switch which is in-turn feed Gigabit over Fiber to the EdgeRouter-X SFP in the basement. That is directly connected to the cable modem.

I can routinely hit my advertised speeds on WiFi... well depending upon device.

It appears that my fastest network WiFi devices as of now are my Apple TV and my iPhone 14 Plus.

I do use this speed quite a bit. Doing some side IT consulting, it is nice to have that bandwidth to pull Windows Updates or the latest driver packages. Streaming is never an issue.
 
I have 1 GB ATT.

When fiber became available ATT had two speeds with data caps.. At the time it was ATT 300 (300Mbps) or 1GB and because we would exceed the data cap for ATT 300 we opted for 1GB (HBO Max thrown in for free).

Now, there's a middle tier of 500 Mbps. We're probably going to drop down to that and save $15/mo being that most of our equipment is hooked up wirelessly which is what limits our download speed.

Download speeds do matter and will continue to do so as wireless speeds catch up.
 
For a home user downloading files over the Internet, these kinds of speeds are not going to make any difference at all because the uploaders are limiting their upload speeds. I very rarely see download speeds over 20Mbps, and most of the time I see 10Mbps or less. Furthermore, most home networking equipment is limited to 1Gbps. We're now seeing the rollout of consumer hardware supporting Multi-Gig home networking, but, it is expensive, most consumer equipment is not equipped with it, and it is unnecessary unless you are using a Multi-Gig speed nas device and are able to use (and actually using) it's potential.
I’ve found more stuff to download that lets me utilize my full 400mbps (50-60 megabytes/second) connection than not.
 
Wondering why someone would need super high speeds when something like 100/200 Mbps would be acceptable?

Do you have it? How do you use it?

Media professionals working with uncompressed or lightly compressed raw data need ultra high speed connections.

Im not that guy.
 
Bragging rights to say you have the fastest.

Obviously, the person with the fastest is doing the most difficult and most important things with their computing activities.
 
How many reasons do you want???

Right now I have at least 3 computers streaming...two of them are in active streaming video meetings, with one of them being my son streaming youtube
I have a minimum of 20 of my own devices connected at any time in my home (probably more, just off the top of my head)
I have three kids, two son in laws, and two grand children (only one old enough to stream) that will be on my connection for the next two weeks
I have YET to see an HD streaming movie that can rival a real HD disc played in my player
I doubt I will ever experience true 9.1 surround sound via streaming methods...the sound on a real disc BLOWS AWAY anything I can stream

I have 1 gig fiber...I never see 1 gig, and while what I get is decent, I experience band width issues almost daily.
You sustain 1Gb/s download on your connection, which is what is causing your application performance troubles?
 
Those are amazing speeds, I presume this isn't your regular business class ISP service?
Internet ports with real SLAs connected to a true tier 1 backbone that is default route free. When you needs speeds this high, you go with a provider that has real SLAs.

This has to be some high end fiber optic service and I can't imagine the costs for the hardware!

You want to play at those speeds, you gotta pay. Although you would be shocked how much less 100G routers cost now than just two years ago. Where Cisco CRS3s uses to be installed, now you see 1U high white boxes that do 10Tb/s and do it very well. 100G and 400G interfaces can cost more than the chassis.
 
You sustain 1Gb/s download on your connection, which is what is causing your application performance troubles?

Never, as I can never reach the claimed speed...I believe you are paying for potential, not what you will really get.

If I could pay for .5gig and GET .5gig...I am sure that would be plenty...but I still have not found a company that can even come close to claims, or even sustain my needs.
 
Never, as I can never reach the claimed speed...I believe you are paying for potential, not what you will really get.

If I could pay for .5gig and GET .5gig...I am sure that would be plenty...but I still have not found a company that can even come close to claims, or even sustain my needs.
You likely can and I did with my 1Gb/s Comcast, but you have to use the correct methodology to sustained throughput. First, you have to know your data source out on the internet can sustain 1Gb/s. Comcast's test platform can. I also have access to a RFC compliant test platform which can sustain 10Gb/s. Second, you have to know your local network can sustain 1Gb/s. I have a Gig Ethernet switch that is non-blocking on each port. It will sustain 1Gb/s even with 64 byte packets (you have to count the frame overhead as payload, else you will never get 1Gb/s with small packets). Third, you have to know your receiving device can sustain 1Gb/s. I test with Linux from the command line and it will sustain 1Gb/s without breaking a sweat.

Does your setup meet the second and third points above?
 
Internet ports with real SLAs connected to a true tier 1 backbone that is default route free. When you needs speeds this high, you go with a provider that has real SLAs.

Years ago I dealt with a T1 outage. T1 was from Verizon. Verizon had a cable failure. Rainstorm caused one of their ancient pulp-insulated, lead sheathed telephone cables to fill with water, destroying it.

The T1 was down for over 48 hours.

What good was the SLA?

The SLA provided a service credit in the amount of the monthly cost of the line divided by 30 times the number of days it was out. I think it amounted to $30 or so.

Wow.
 
Years ago I dealt with a T1 outage. T1 was from Verizon. Verizon had a cable failure. Rainstorm caused one of their ancient pulp-insulated, lead sheathed telephone cables to fill with water, destroying it.

The T1 was down for over 48 hours.

What good was the SLA?

The SLA provided a service credit in the amount of the monthly cost of the line divided by 30 times the number of days it was out. I think it amounted to $30 or so.

Wow.
Yeah, most SLAs just say, "We're sorry and will keep trying hard to bring you better service". However, I have seen SLA's with terms that if there is more than 5 seconds of downtime, you get the month for free and that on a service that is commonly > 150k/month. Always read the SLA carefully and understand what it says.
 
I get 800 down from the HOA via Comcast. Att fiber is also in the area.


IIRC gigabit Ethernet has a theoretical max of ~950 so makes no sense to pay more, Comcast does have a 1200 Mbps plan but I have no way to utilize it. My modem does have a 2.5g port through.
 
IIRC gigabit Ethernet has a theoretical max of ~950
It depends on the frame size. With jumbo frames you can have up to 99% efficiency or 990Mb/s throughput. With small packets, the efficiency falls way off. For example, with 64 Byte packets (84 byte frames) the efficiency is about 76%, so you would get a maximum throughput of 760Mb/s on a gig E port.
 
It depends on the frame size. With jumbo frames you can have up to 99% efficiency or 990Mb/s throughput. With small packets, the efficiency falls way off. For example, with 64 Byte packets (84 byte frames) the efficiency is about 76%, so you would get a maximum throughput of 760Mb/s on a gig E port.

Everything I've read said that jumbo frames are pointless with modern hardware. I've never noticed any speed increase by using them.
 
Companies that sell high speed internet have done a great job marketing, getting people to think they need higher and higher speeds. The fact is, 50/50Mbps is overkill for most users. An HD stream for Netflix/Hulu/etc only requires about 6Mbps. 4K Ultra HD needs less than 20Mbps. A family that streams four separate 4K videos at the same time might make use of 100/100 service. The users who really have a need for service faster than 200/200 are rare.
 
Everything I've read said that jumbo frames are pointless with modern hardware. I've never noticed any speed increase by using them.
The only time jumbo frames are practical is over expensive WAN links where every device in the path support jumbos and you have very large transfers. You are correct, switching in ASICs done at line rate, so frame size practically doesn't matter. It's not about speed, it's about line efficiency.
 
I have multiple devices streaming over my home network:
Phones, Cell phones, Desktops, IPad, Set-top boxes, TV’s, Chromecast, Ring, Ring chime, Alexa, Wireless Surveillance system, Wireless Alarm system, Thermostat, ect….
Plus: It’s actually cheaper on my plan bundled, with all other discounts for a 1 gig service tier over any of the slower tiers.
 
Years ago I dealt with a T1 outage. T1 was from Verizon. Verizon had a cable failure. Rainstorm caused one of their ancient pulp-insulated, lead sheathed telephone cables to fill with water, destroying it.

The T1 was down for over 48 hours.

What good was the SLA?

The SLA provided a service credit in the amount of the monthly cost of the line divided by 30 times the number of days it was out. I think it amounted to $30 or so.

Wow.
The organization I previously worked for has about 500 T1s across the state. Reason being that AT&T will not put MPLS over DSL or consumer fiber. They will run "business fiber" at a cost of about $100,000 per mile. Usually it only has to be a fraction of that, but a typical fiber site install where there is no existing fiber to the building is usually in the $20-$40K range.

Experience with T1s similar in some locations, T1 goes down every time it rains. Thankfully in South and West Texas it doesn't rain much.

My old organization is going SD-WAN so they can use whatever the best available option is for each location. I won't be there to see it implemented though.
 
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