With over 12 rigs, ranging from daily drivers to motorcycles and farm machinery, we go though a lot of oil. I've been using Wal-Mart's Super tech oil in my dozer and a few of the older high mileage vehicles because of cost. Just wondering who makes this stuff and how does it compare to main stream brands like Q, Penz, Castrol, etc.? I like to change oil every 2500-3000 and this stuff is so cheap I don't feel guilty doing it.
Who makes Super-tech: is it any good?
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Search the UOAs and then draw your own conclusion. The oil can go 3k if that's your concern.
Will they still be using the same supplier with the same add pack next oil change or somebody else?
Warren Products makes Super Tech oil and it's a good product.
There was a recent change in the color of the containers but I don't think it's of any signifigance.I just did an oil change yesterday using ST5W30 and it looked pretty much the same as the stuff in the prior grey bottles.
Smells the same also
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There was a recent change in the color of the containers but I don't think it's of any signifigance.I just did an oil change yesterday using ST5W30 and it looked pretty much the same as the stuff in the prior grey bottles.
Smells the same also
labman - Will they still be using the same supplier with the same add pack next oil change or somebody else?
I could not tell you Super Tech will be exactly the same "next change" and more than I can tell you that Valvoline or Quaker State will be the same in the future.
All I can tell you is that Super Tech, Valvoline, and Quaker State oils will be API certified and SL rated.
Would you really care if the oil was made for Wal*Mart by any of 10 companies?
I could not tell you Super Tech will be exactly the same "next change" and more than I can tell you that Valvoline or Quaker State will be the same in the future.
All I can tell you is that Super Tech, Valvoline, and Quaker State oils will be API certified and SL rated.
Would you really care if the oil was made for Wal*Mart by any of 10 companies?
Depending on how quickly you pile miles, by your next oil change, SuperTech might even be SM/GF-4 rated...
all the new bottles at my walmart here have a big C and two smaller c's inside it instead of the wpp that used to be on the bottom. Don't have a clue who the oil's coming from now
ok so it's consolidated container company according to this thread: http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=007661
but the oil doesn't smell the same anymore either, the one's with wpp on the bottom smelled just like havoline to me. this new oil doesn't have as strong of a smell..
but the oil doesn't smell the same anymore either, the one's with wpp on the bottom smelled just like havoline to me. this new oil doesn't have as strong of a smell..
Oh no, I hope it's not Coastal...
I am from Canada but what I heard in another forum in here about SuperTech SYN oil is that it is from Mobil. A couple Walmart employee posting in this forum said the SuperTech pallets were from Mobil. Cant remember which forum, sorry.
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From the reports we've had on the new blue bottles, the CCC packaged oils are showing up mainly on the East coast. These bottles have a rounded profile & large diameter cap, same as Mobil DC & Exxon SuperFlo.
Since Consolidated Container is also packager for ExxonMobil, this is the base oil connection that we have discussed previously.
Here in Wisconsin, the blue bottles are still the rectangular profile, WPP logo, from Warren Performance products.
Since Consolidated Container is also packager for ExxonMobil, this is the base oil connection that we have discussed previously.
Here in Wisconsin, the blue bottles are still the rectangular profile, WPP logo, from Warren Performance products.
Motorguy, the logo on the bottle is actually stamped on the blow mold cavity surface and indicates the packager/blender rather than the oil brand.
The box G of Graham & the CCC of Consolidated will appear on many different brands of motor oil, additives & other automotive chemicals.
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This probably is an indication of 3rd packaging source/location for Supertech. We're talking the dino Supertech, right?
Constar also supplies the 16 oz bottles for Mobil 1 MX2T & MX4T motorcycle oils. Since Constar is already an ExxonMobil packager, this is probably another link to the ExxonMobil base oil theory.
The box G of Graham & the CCC of Consolidated will appear on many different brands of motor oil, additives & other automotive chemicals.
Really! Now that's interesting. The C with a 4 pointed star belongs to Constar International.
Constar Website
This probably is an indication of 3rd packaging source/location for Supertech. We're talking the dino Supertech, right?
Constar also supplies the 16 oz bottles for Mobil 1 MX2T & MX4T motorcycle oils. Since Constar is already an ExxonMobil packager, this is probably another link to the ExxonMobil base oil theory.
I bought a quart of HD30 for the lawnmower in SuperTech's new bottle. The sign for all the oils listed $0.88 as price but also Exxon/Mobile in smaller writing below the larger SuperTech words. Its fine by me, it meets spec and costs very little and will do for my 5HP sickle mower and 170k tired Civic (5W30 of Course
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I grow weary of this. Wal-Mart is constantly negotiating and beating suppliers. Once you figure it out, the contract may change.
I can't imagine that they could get a better deal from anyone better than Exxon because they have a lot of Group I to dump and have the resources.
Just like generic drugs, you have to have faith in generic oil, because it meets spec.
All you can be reasonably sure of is that it meets the specs. listed on the container.
I can't imagine that they could get a better deal from anyone better than Exxon because they have a lot of Group I to dump and have the resources.
Just like generic drugs, you have to have faith in generic oil, because it meets spec.
All you can be reasonably sure of is that it meets the specs. listed on the container.
In some instances,like in Warren Dist./WPP,they ARE/WAS a blender for ST.They MADE and packaged the ST for WM.Since they did/do so,it just made sense that Coastal could be making the ST as Warren Dist/WPP is/was doing.
It is even more possible since Warren Oil Company bought out Coastal.Warren Oil Co. is a large supplier of private label oils.ST would be a product that would fit perfectly in their line.As I said,I was just giving a possibility.
Yes,it was dino SuperTech,it was 20W-50 in the qt. bottle.I just noticed this a few days ago when I was checking the ST oil.
Yes, and three C's also used to represent the now defunct Continental Can Company. It's just the maker of the container, nothing to get excited about.
If the bottle has a large C with smaller c's inside,it sounds like a Coastal bottle.This is how the Advance Auto's house brand of oil is and it is Coastal made.The same logo is also on the bottom of the Coastal brand that is sold at Autozone.
It sounds as if it is a coastal product from the description of the logo.
I am not sure though if the logo is actually C's or if it is just a C that is made in such a way as to be a logo.
Coastal is now owned by Warren Oil Company(not the Warren Dist/WPP Co.)of North Carolina.They are the owner as of Jan.2004.
There website is at
www.warrenunilube.com
They seem to be partnered with Shell to some degree.
The SuperTech here has two differen bottles,one with WPP and the other has a C with a star like symbol in it.
The star like symbol may be Consolidated Container Corp.
The large C with smaller c's inside is the same thing that is on the Coastal bottle.
Go to Advance and look at the bottom of the qt. bottles and you will see the C's.
Coastal makes this oil.
Go to Autozone and look at the bottom of the Coastal brand,you will find the C.
This is a confusing arena in our day,I may be wrong,we all may be wrong.
I am using ST,it seems to do ok.
It seems that this company is now involved with that company and this one is also into that one and this and that and that and this,
I cant take it any more!
[ September 25, 2004, 12:37 PM: Message edited by: motorguy222 ]
It sounds as if it is a coastal product from the description of the logo.
I am not sure though if the logo is actually C's or if it is just a C that is made in such a way as to be a logo.
Coastal is now owned by Warren Oil Company(not the Warren Dist/WPP Co.)of North Carolina.They are the owner as of Jan.2004.
There website is at
www.warrenunilube.com
They seem to be partnered with Shell to some degree.
The SuperTech here has two differen bottles,one with WPP and the other has a C with a star like symbol in it.
The star like symbol may be Consolidated Container Corp.
The large C with smaller c's inside is the same thing that is on the Coastal bottle.
Go to Advance and look at the bottom of the qt. bottles and you will see the C's.
Coastal makes this oil.
Go to Autozone and look at the bottom of the Coastal brand,you will find the C.
This is a confusing arena in our day,I may be wrong,we all may be wrong.
I am using ST,it seems to do ok.
It seems that this company is now involved with that company and this one is also into that one and this and that and that and this,
[ September 25, 2004, 12:37 PM: Message edited by: motorguy222 ]
Was at WM last night,the 10W-40 and straight 30 weights now have the C with the star in it on the bottom of the quart bottles.Now they have 20W-50,10W-40 and 30 weights this way
The rest will more than likely be this way in the near future.
It does seem evident that WM has once again changed suppliers,at least in my area anyway.
The rest will more than likely be this way in the near future.
It does seem evident that WM has once again changed suppliers,at least in my area anyway.
Here is something else to ponder.The ST bottles in my area are still the square qt. bottles like they have always been.
They DO have the C with a four point star in it embossed in the bottom and they are blue.
They are not the wide mouth bottle that some are speaking of.However,they do have the C and star,as I stated.
Maybe it is possible that Warren Dist/WPP is still manufacturing this oil and is haveing the bottles come in from a different company.
It may be cheaper for Warren to buy bottles from others than to make them themselves.
They may also be using a bottle from another company until they get THEIR design/color of bottle into production.
The Constar square bottle may just be a temporary thing.
The thing with Wal-Mart is,Who Knows?
They DO have the C with a four point star in it embossed in the bottom and they are blue.
They are not the wide mouth bottle that some are speaking of.However,they do have the C and star,as I stated.
Maybe it is possible that Warren Dist/WPP is still manufacturing this oil and is haveing the bottles come in from a different company.
It may be cheaper for Warren to buy bottles from others than to make them themselves.
They may also be using a bottle from another company until they get THEIR design/color of bottle into production.
The Constar square bottle may just be a temporary thing.
The thing with Wal-Mart is,Who Knows?
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