I searched this in depth but did not find what I was looking for. Looking to use a synthetic filter on my new Hemi Ram that has a thread end bypass valve similar to the Mopar filter but in a synthetic media. Thank you.
Who makes a synthetic filter w/ thread end bypass?
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I would not worry about where the bypass it. Get a filter from a quality manufacturer.
There is some debate between synthetic media and a synthetic blend media. The synthetic blend is absorbent and the synthetic media is not. Being absorbent has some advantages.
M1, Amsoil and D+ come to mind as being synthetic or a synthetic blend.
I would not worry about where the bypass it. Get a filter from a quality manufacturer.
There is some debate between synthetic media and a synthetic blend media. The synthetic blend is absorbent and the synthetic media is not. Being absorbent has some advantages.
M1, Amsoil and D+ come to mind as being synthetic or a synthetic blend.
Why the fixation on thread end bypass? They both do the same thing.... I would just buy a decent filter like stated above
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There are at least three:
Bosch D+ (D3334)
M1 (M1-113)
Wix XP/Napa Platinum (57060XP/47060)
Bosch D+ (D3334)
M1 (M1-113)
Wix XP/Napa Platinum (57060XP/47060)
The Wix XP should have thread end bypass but your stepping down to 50% efficiency at 20 microns compared to around 99% efficient at 20 microns for the better synthetic filters with dome end bypass like the Fram Ultra, Royal Purple, Amsoil EA and Purolator synthetic
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
There are at least three:
Bosch D+ (D3334)
M1 (M1-113)
Wix XP/Napa Platinum (57060XP/47060)
I'd much rather have the Mobil 1 or Bosch Distance plus over the Wix xp.
There are at least three:
Bosch D+ (D3334)
M1 (M1-113)
Wix XP/Napa Platinum (57060XP/47060)
I'd much rather have the Mobil 1 or Bosch Distance plus over the Wix xp.
Thank you. I did not know the Mobil 1 had thread end bypass. I have an M1-210 on my shelf for the older trucks that will fit the newer ones and have more capacity. I was going to sell it to a friend as I thought it was not fully synthetic.
people obsess way too much about the efficiency rating of a filter. Those numbers are just a first pass efficiency number. Eventually the high end filters will filter out pretty much the same exact things, as the oil passes through the filter media multiple times. I think that quality materials/construction and proper flow characteristics are much more important to a filter's worthiness, than a first pass efficiency rating.
theoretically I don't mind my filter missing a 10 micron particle on the first pass, and having to filter it out on a 2nd or 3rd pass, as long as it's always assuring proper flow of oil to my engine.
having said that I love the M1 and Wix filters.
theoretically I don't mind my filter missing a 10 micron particle on the first pass, and having to filter it out on a 2nd or 3rd pass, as long as it's always assuring proper flow of oil to my engine.
having said that I love the M1 and Wix filters.
Does the m1-210 have the same bypass setting? And god knows if ur ram dealer sees that they will go insane lol I have friends running the fl500s style filter on their truck no problem
Originally Posted By: QwikKota
Thank you. I did not know the Mobil 1 had thread end bypass. I have an M1-210 on my shelf for the older trucks that will fit the newer ones and have more capacity. I was going to sell it to a friend as I thought it was not fully synthetic.
Mobil 1 & Bosch D+ are both NOT fully synthetic-both are blends. Not that there's anything really wrong with a blend, I've used both in the past with good results.
Thank you. I did not know the Mobil 1 had thread end bypass. I have an M1-210 on my shelf for the older trucks that will fit the newer ones and have more capacity. I was going to sell it to a friend as I thought it was not fully synthetic.
Mobil 1 & Bosch D+ are both NOT fully synthetic-both are blends. Not that there's anything really wrong with a blend, I've used both in the past with good results.
Even though the Mobil 1 and Bosch Distance plus aren't full synthetic microglass they have enough blend of synthetic fibers in the media to be very robust and worthy of any vehicle if the price is right, unfortunately full microglass Fram Ultras can be had for $9 or less which is usually cheaper than Mobil 1 filters in my area.
I recently got a few Ultras off Amazon for less than $6 each.
I recently got a few Ultras off Amazon for less than $6 each.
Thank you, that is what I figured, the M1 is a blend which is not a big deal. I would prefer a filter with thread end bypass to avoid the oil washing any large particles into the return when in bypass mode. I do not abuse this truck but may go WOT occasionally.
I may run the filter I have and would like to use the Fram Ultra's but they are dome end bypass with no screen. I know this is nitpicking but that is what this forum is about, unless I am mistaken.
The Mopar and the Motorcraft filters for this truck are thread end bypass and the latter is only $3, however they use cellulose media.
I may run the filter I have and would like to use the Fram Ultra's but they are dome end bypass with no screen. I know this is nitpicking but that is what this forum is about, unless I am mistaken.
The Mopar and the Motorcraft filters for this truck are thread end bypass and the latter is only $3, however they use cellulose media.
Originally Posted By: robo339
what a terrible reason to pass up so much better filters
I am considering the Fram Ultra but have some worries of bypass. Is that unwarranted?
I am considering the Fram Ultra but have some worries of bypass. Is that unwarranted?
Originally Posted By: QwikKota
Originally Posted By: robo339
what a terrible reason to pass up so much better filters
I am considering the Fram Ultra but have some worries of bypass. Is that unwarranted?
When I first became a member here, I was in the same boat as you. It'll take you about 3-6 months use whatever quality filter you can get your hands on the cheapest.
As far as the dome end bypass, from what I understand, the contaminants are embedded in the media enough to where they wont come out during bypass and flow back into the engine. I believe the Fram guy that is a member here explained it before.
As far as the cellulose filters, don't buy synthetic filters because you think it'll make your engine last longer because they are more efficient. There is no proof whatsoever that a engine lasts longer with a cellulose/ synthetic/ blend filter. Entry level filters/ oil will get you to 300k+ if changed per the owners manual.
If you buy a synthetic filter, use it to it's fullest potential so you can get your money's worth.
Originally Posted By: robo339
I am considering the Fram Ultra but have some worries of bypass. Is that unwarranted?
When I first became a member here, I was in the same boat as you. It'll take you about 3-6 months use whatever quality filter you can get your hands on the cheapest.
As far as the dome end bypass, from what I understand, the contaminants are embedded in the media enough to where they wont come out during bypass and flow back into the engine. I believe the Fram guy that is a member here explained it before.
As far as the cellulose filters, don't buy synthetic filters because you think it'll make your engine last longer because they are more efficient. There is no proof whatsoever that a engine lasts longer with a cellulose/ synthetic/ blend filter. Entry level filters/ oil will get you to 300k+ if changed per the owners manual.
If you buy a synthetic filter, use it to it's fullest potential so you can get your money's worth.
Originally Posted By: QwikKota
Originally Posted By: robo339
what a terrible reason to pass up so much better filters
I am considering the Fram Ultra but have some worries of bypass. Is that unwarranted?
Absolutely unwarranted worry.
Originally Posted By: robo339
I am considering the Fram Ultra but have some worries of bypass. Is that unwarranted?
Absolutely unwarranted worry.
Originally Posted By: QwikKota
Originally Posted By: robo339
what a terrible reason to pass up so much better filters
I am considering the Fram Ultra but have some worries of bypass. Is that unwarranted?
Yup you are overthinking this baldwin, wix, fram ultra, bosch +d, mobil 1 are all great filters just put them on and forget about them till you have to change again what oil will you be using?
Originally Posted By: robo339
I am considering the Fram Ultra but have some worries of bypass. Is that unwarranted?
Yup you are overthinking this baldwin, wix, fram ultra, bosch +d, mobil 1 are all great filters just put them on and forget about them till you have to change again what oil will you be using?
From what I have read it is best to stick with the factory fill Pennzoil conventional to avoid any ticking. I may experiment with using 2 quarts of Redline syn as it also has a high moly content. 5W-20 required for MDS system, cyl kill.
I am confused on why so many on here are so cost conscious. It seems that saving $5 on a filter is a big deal. Aside from crazy new vehicle cost, an oil change is barely the same price as a tank of gas which only lasts 2 weeks. I use good fuel as well as good oil/filters and will pay a few bucks extra to avoid some headaches.
I am confused on why so many on here are so cost conscious. It seems that saving $5 on a filter is a big deal. Aside from crazy new vehicle cost, an oil change is barely the same price as a tank of gas which only lasts 2 weeks. I use good fuel as well as good oil/filters and will pay a few bucks extra to avoid some headaches.
Idk about mixing oil for a new truck lol I'd just buy pup or something of that nature when I first started using royal purple in my 5.0 it had some "ticking/whatever" for the first 500 miles or so then it disappeared I don't really think it's a big deal as long as everything meets specs
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