Which engine would a Ford tech choose for an F150

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Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
Originally Posted By: supton
Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010
I'd take the 3.5 over the 5.0. Torque speaks to me. The 5.0 coyote is a solid engine and I'm waiting for the twin turbo variant that will make me run around the house naked


I don't think they can turbo the 5.0. The 3.5EB weighs about the same as the 5.0, which surprised me. But I guess in order to keep the bottom end in one piece, it's gotta be strong (which usually means heft). Ok, they can turbo it, but I doubt they can approach the same boost levels and hp/liter, and have it hold together. Just a swag on my part.


The Coyote can handle boost, that isn't a problem at all. The block has 6 bolt mains and it is a deep skirt block.

If we were talking -14 trucks I would take a 6.2L because the only one of those I would consider would be a Raptor. On the newer ones I would try to get a 5.0, a lot less issues with them on a day to day basis. However the new 3.5L that has both direct and port fuel injection is pretty awesome. A V6 just does not sound right with exhaust. I took video of a new Raptor at work with some kind of exhaust and it sounds absolutely terrible, like I would be embarrassed to drive it bad.


As a former Thunderbird SC owner, I can tell you that getting a good exhaust note out of an American V6 takes a lot of anecdotal science. I always found a center resonator and X-pipe necessary to get a good sound out of a V6.
 
I'd pick the 5.0. IMO it would be more reliable over the long haul. A few years back when I was looking for a new 1/2 ton I asked a very respected, knowledgeable, and trusted Ford mechanic the very same question. Without hesitation he answered the 5.0.
 
Shocking to find a set of mechanics that are of the opinion that the V8 is the way to go... Tough to overcome old preferences and biases...

If all I was buying was an exhaust tone, sure, the eco boost engines would not be top choices.

I don't think my 2.7 in my F150 is wheezy or sounds "bad". Different than a V8 yes. I smile now when I hear the turbos spool, when I see headlights in my rear view mirror, and when I go weeks without filling the gas tank. It tows my boat better than the last 3 v8 equipped trucks I bought. And on a long trip, the last thing I want to listen to is an aggressive exhaust note for hours on end.


End of the day it's a great thing to have lots of excellent options to choose from - and we all have different needs and likes, making one person's choice just that - good for them.
 
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
Originally Posted By: dlundblad


How is this any different than a timing belt driven water pump on an interference engine?



1. Because the pump is inside of the engine, there have been many incidents in which the coolant simply came out of the pump into the engine, and wiped out the engine. With an external pump, that coolant is going out onto the ground, and nowhere else. Many people who had engine failure had such because they were unaware of the coolant leak. It was contained in the engine, or happened so fast that there was never a chance.

2. Timing belt driven water pumps can definitely be disastrous when a failure occurs. Timing chain water pumps are a somewhat worse because a pump seizure usually results in complete shattering of the timing chains and sometimes the gears as well. With a belt, you just replace the belt and carry on with non-interference. With interference, you can many times ditch the head and get a new belt in there. With interference/chains, you are in a world broken parts, including the head.


Both can be disastrous if they fail.

Does the water pump have a service interval?
 
Originally Posted By: L_Sludger
The 3.5 is a better engine and these technicians don't know what they're talking about.

One of them cited towing as a reason to choose the coyote over the EB. REALLY? What's he smoking during those smoke breaks?


I picked a 5.0 for my F150......
its the strongest engine and most reliable of what they offer.
I have 30K on mine so far,I like it alot
 
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