Which engine part will wear first from using too thin oil?

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I've seen people claim that using too thin oil will wear your cams, bearings, or cylinder walls. It was interesting to hear the different theories where thickness is most critical. I think the only consensus is that the timing chain doesn't care too much about viscosity.

If you use too thin oil in extreme conditions, which part of the engine will experience wear first?

For example if you fill up with 0W20, go for a few laps around the track, and then inspect the engine, which part of the engine will suffer the most from the decreased viscosity?
 
In a short instance like that the wear would be virtually immeasurable. One should worry more about a spun bearing as I've seen that is usually what happens to cars are tracked with thin oil and the oil temp gets so high that 20 grade is thinner than an 8 grade causing that failure. But in the long term in almost all engines it's usually the timing chain that suffers the most wear relative to everything else with thin oils. But it's possible to design a timing system so robust it isn't the first thing but rarely is that ever the case. Most of the time auto makers are trying to reduce both costs and increase efficiency by using borderline bicycle looking chains for timing chains as opposed to big thick wide chains like long ago. But no one tracks a car with 0w-20 and is expected to be felt bad for when something bad happens to it unless they had their oil cooling system in order and better yet had an oil accumulator to prevent pressure loss. Minimum a thick 30 grade which are almost all euro or racing grade 30's but if one doesn't want to mess with the oil cooling system something with at least 4.0 hths is highly suggested. But if you want to own something for the long run and don't want to worry about timing chain wear that much use something thicker preferably bmw ll-01/04 or similar and use a good filter and if it's gdi you should change a bit more frequently as soot particles contribute to wear and you get a lot more of that in a gdi engine.
 
I've read all of the viscosity-wear studies I could get my hands on. The general study design is to operate an engine at high load with high oil temperatures (usually 130°C in the sump), with several different grades of oil, most of them thinner than what was originally intended for the engine.

The common theme in these studies is that the piston rings are the most sensitive part of the engine to increased wear from thin oil grades. This is because the oil film at the rings can approach the temperature of the rings and upper cylinder liner, which get very hot at high engine loads. Shear rates are also high at the piston rings.

Ring wear may increase to 2 to 4 times the normal wear rate when the oil is multiple grades thinner than the intended grade. This only occurs at high engine temperature and high load, so for your typical commuter car, these events should be rare, and should have a negligible impact on the lifespan of the rings.

Most other parts of an engine are completely insensitive to viscosity in these tests. Compared to the piston rings, the oil films at most other components operate much cooler, so the viscosity won't get anywhere near thin enough to start causing increased wear. These are parts like timing chains and gears, oil pumps, and low-friction valvetrains. Basically, an automaker will select an oil grade that provides adequate piston ring protection, and this grade will always be thicker than necessary for most other engine components.

There are some exceptions, like flat tappet valvetrains that have high friction and extreme shear rates, which can get the oil film about as thin as it is at the piston rings. These valvetrains can have increased wear with thinner oil grades, but the increase in wear is pretty modest.

Rod bearings aren't very sensitive to viscosity until the oil gets so thin that oil pressure drops below a critical level, at which point catastrophic wear will occur. This is due to centrifugal forces interrupting the supply of oil below a certain minimum pressure, which increases with rpm. Main bearings and cam bearings don't experience this type of catastrophic wear.

So while the rod bearings won't usually see increased wear as soon as the rings do, the consequences of low viscosity can be far worse. This shouldn't be much of a concern for most engines unless there are other problems that are also causing reduced oil pressure (extreme oil temperature, foaming, aeration, clogged oil filter, etc.). A thicker grade will provide a larger factor of safety for this type of bearing damage, but won't have much effect on normal wear. One study shows a reduction in normal bearing wear with thinner oil grades.
 
I don’t have the track or race experience like many here. But I have professional experience. Most of the wear I’ve seen from severe service is on the upper half of the rod bearings. They literally get beat to death after loss of MOFT, wearing through layers of the bearing.
 
Toyota coats their Dynamic Force Engine's upper compression and oil piston rings with diamond like carbon (DLC).

I have a Casio MR-G G-Shock watch that is made of this DLC material and no scratches on the clasp or bezel even being my daily beater watch and nearly 20 years old.
 
IDK, but if you start out with a quality engine over something with known low mileage failure rates you should be ok. I recall when 5w30 came out and thought that was crazy. I've read thin oils remove heat better from rod and main bearings due to more oil flow. Seems reasonable.
 
In your example wear would likely be immeasurable. Interesting question, wouldn't the same parts wear with 5W30 just maybe take longer?
Doubt it would be immeasurable.

The AEHaus posts about using 0W-5 in a Lincoln Navigator SUV speced for 5W-30 showed pieces of metal in the oil filter after 1,000 miles if I recall correctly.
 
I've seen people claim that using too thin oil will wear your cams, bearings, or cylinder walls. It was interesting to hear the different theories where thickness is most critical. I think the only consensus is that the timing chain doesn't care too much about viscosity.

If you use too thin oil in extreme conditions, which part of the engine will experience wear first?

For example if you fill up with 0W20, go for a few laps around the track, and then inspect the engine, which part of the engine will suffer the most from the decreased viscosity?
All engine parts will wear when it is driven off the lot.

The question might be: Which engine component has the highest wear rate?

I would assume the wear rate is dependent on metallurgy, heat treatment, oil flow and cooling to the part, and OCI.
 
I've seen people claim that using too thin oil will wear your cams, bearings, or cylinder walls. It was interesting to hear the different theories where thickness is most critical. I think the only consensus is that the timing chain doesn't care too much about viscosity.

If you use too thin oil in extreme conditions, which part of the engine will experience wear first?

For example if you fill up with 0W20, go for a few laps around the track, and then inspect the engine, which part of the engine will suffer the most from the decreased viscosity?

aeound the track? rod bearings. That's assuming you go hard enough that the viscosity matters
 
Doubt it would be immeasurable.

The AEHaus posts about using 0W-5 in a Lincoln Navigator SUV speced for 5W-30 showed pieces of metal in the oil filter after 1,000 miles if I recall correctly.

yes and that wasn't even 0W-5 as that spec didn't and doesn't exist.
 
I'd say it depends on engine design.
Bulletproof engine can run many miles on any oil, even without it being changed (at the OCI manufacturer recommends).
Whereas engine with known design flaws wouldn't benefit even from the best oil.

E.g. VW TDI-PD engines are known for premature camshaft/lifer wear. Especially true where 5w-30 oils has been used instead of 5w-40.

In general situations, from what I know most wear occurs because of piston/ring rubbing against cylinder wall. So my bet would be on this area wearing out first
 
Toyota coats their Dynamic Force Engine's upper compression and oil piston rings with diamond like carbon (DLC).

I have a Casio MR-G G-Shock watch that is made of this DLC material and no scratches on the clasp or bezel even being my daily beater watch and nearly 20 years old.
Yea, no wonder why Toyota felt a bit more confident using 0W-8 on their engines.

Nissan was microfinishing the VQ engines, Ford was using plasma arc processing for the Coyote’s cylinder liners.

Rings and journal bearings get the most abuse in an engine.
 
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