Picked up the Eneos for $10.
Which brand NS3 ATF for new Nissan CVT?
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I will be changing the CVT fluid in the next few weeks. options here in Australia are Penrite Low Viscosity (AUD60, usd 46) for 4L or Valvoline LV also at the same price for 5L or imported OEM NS3 for AUD75(usd 57) for 4L. May go with the Valvoline.
I thought you needed something that carried the NS3 license? No Eneos fluid that I'm aware of carries that license. I'm sure it will be fine, but you seemed to really want that approval, so I thought I'd mention it.
Eneos website says, ENEOS is the leading innovator and supplier of automotive lubricants to the majority of Asian automobile manufacturers. ENEOS Import CVT | MODEL N Plus provides outstanding compatibility and performance for all of the service fill requirements for your vehicle applications.
Don't know about any license, but ENEOS and Aisin were the two fluid options listed as OEM from my supplier.
Don't know about any license, but ENEOS and Aisin were the two fluid options listed as OEM from my supplier.
But's it's the same as NS3. I don't care if it's licensed. Does Nissan even license it? Maybe I should have said I wanted an NS3 direct replacement and not a universal CVT fluid. And this stuff IS blue.
That's highly doubtful and how would you know that? Just as none the Honda ATF DW-1 substitutes are anywhere near the same as the Honda fluid since Asian manufacturers for the most part do not license their fluid formulations.
Nowhere does ENEOS say that it is the same as the OEM fluid, they only say it is "engineered" for the application. Same wording Idemitsu uses for their DW-1 applicable fluid even though you read over and over they supposedly make real DW-1 for Honda. And it's red too.
Would I use the ENEOS fluid? Sure. But you're the one who said "I want something that is NS3, not just NS3 rated or suitable. Big difference." That's all. Only Nissan NS3 is actual NS3.
WorldPac shows Eneos and Aisin as OEM. Nissan doesn't doesn't actually make the fluid but buys it from suppliers so I would assume same fluid, just different bottles.
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Just checked my catalog. $1428 isn't bad at all. My local dealer even has one in-stock.
Does this one require programming after install? Some of them do and it requires Consult-III plus or Consult III plus R2R.
Had me curious and had to check. The price tag for a new CVT for my 2019 Pathfinder SV 4x4 is $2193. They're really not that crazy expensive to buy.
I'm assuming once the magical price matrix kicks in, it's double the cost to the customer to have a shop source and install one, plus ~10hrs labor at ~$120/hr and $300-400 worth of incidentals like fluid, etc.
Interesting though.
I don't know how much it is now but I bought 10 qts. of Nissan NS-3 off of eBay not long after I bought my Versa. I got 10 qts. shipped to my home for $125. I could have bought Valvoline for just over 1/2 the cost but since there was an extended warranty issued (7yr./84K miles) on the Versa transmissions I decided to stay with Nissan fluid just in case there was an issue later on they couldn't try to weasel out of paying for the damaged transmission. Once this Nissan fluid is used up and the extended warranty is out I'll probably go to an aftermarket fluid. Within a few weeks mine will have 30K miles at which time I plan to do a pan drop to replace the internal filter, replace the exterior filter and all the fluid I can get to drain. Afterwards I should be good for at least another 3 years. Whether it's true or not I've read online that Idemitsu is the factory fill for Nissan CVT's.
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I would pay zero attention to any of WP's "OEM" designations. They list OEM next any manufacturer that may be an OEM supplier, even if it is not for the vehicle in question.
Dropped the pan on the old one before returning for core refund. Found a few bits of the belt. Plus it had the red NS2 fluid instead of the proper blue NS3.
I just received my online OEM NS_3. Looks like it is from Japan but no indication who actually made the fluid. I was going for Valvoline LV CVT initially since the price is for 5L instead of 4L. Just in case I need more than 4L. But all indication indicated that I need less than 4L for my 2015 Qashqai 2L J11 transmission. The price is USD $55 delivered. Other countries in Asia sells for lower price ranging from USD28 online. I will be using the extraction method. Will post after I have done the extract and refill this weekend.
There seems to be a number of non OEM supplier in japan but all have it in 4 L tin cans. Must be some law in Japan against using plastic containers.
Incidentally the EBAY seller is a Nissan cars franchisee.
There seems to be a number of non OEM supplier in japan but all have it in 4 L tin cans. Must be some law in Japan against using plastic containers.
Incidentally the EBAY seller is a Nissan cars franchisee.
Idemitsu is the manufacturer for Nissan branded NS3 fluid (at least the last time I checked the MSDS) I’ve used it and it’s identical in color to the quart of the outrageously overpriced Nissan stuff I had to pick up from the stealership since I accidentally ordered .5 a quart too little.
Found it on carid of all places, $10 a quart (https://www.carid.com/idemitsu/cvt-...ion-fluid-1-quart-mpn-30041102-75000c020.html)
Found it on carid of all places, $10 a quart (https://www.carid.com/idemitsu/cvt-...ion-fluid-1-quart-mpn-30041102-75000c020.html)
Another thing that I notice is that, OEM generally does not mentioned synthetic (Nissan, Toyota etc) whereas almost all non-OEM mentioned that their fluid is fully synthetic.
Kschachn... Eneos CVT fluid is made by JK Nippon...
Now... I may be crazy... But I would bet decent money JK Nippon makes that CVT fluid for Nissan cars that are built in Japan. JK Nippon is the biggest oil company in Japan.
Here in the US ... Idemitsu is a likely OEM Nissan CVT fluid supplier.
Maybe that's not the case about the possibility of JK Nippon making the CVT fluid in Japan made Nissan vehicles... However I would put some money down on that possibility.
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Well, the back of Nissan's OEM CVT NS3 bottle says "Made in USA" and "Distributed by Nissan North America" out of Franklin, TN. Maybe they're using Idemitsu and not Eneos. Either way, it's speculation. This thread was started with "I want genuine, NS3 licensed fluid". There's no other licensed NS3 fluid besides what Nissan sells. I don't think any of them will cause damage, and by now the OP has been made aware, but I figured it was worth bringing up that he didn't buy what he originally set out to purchase.
By the way, Idemitsu is green, and not blue. It seems unlikely that their NS3 is the OE fluid for North America. That and their specs are quite different than Eneos' fluid.
Where did I say that?
Now you're just playing games in this thread. Although you didn't exactly say that, it was what you implied.
Perhaps you didn't really know what you were saying?
Again for the 300th time the only actual NS3 fluid on the market is the Nissan branded product. Every last one of every last other fluid is "rated or suitable", using your own language.
Perhaps I should have emphasized that I was looking for a direct replacement which has identical properties as NS3 as opposed to the multi-make fluids that so many here seem to love.
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