Generally the time to change (anything) is when the cost of staying the same exceeds the cost of the change.
When is it Time to Trade?
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That assumes you've already bought the farm. And I mean that literally, not in the figurative sense (I just couldn't pass up the "bought the farm" pun).
That is more than likely true. Base prices keep going up because of all the electronics and features they keep adding (none of which I would want in a new truck). Cannot stand the 10-speed trans or the auto on-off on our 2019 F150 we have at work so I am not even sure I would stay with Ford if I did purchase.
To keep a long story short, I don't believe the trans was problematic before the rebuild. There was a noise happening during a 5-3 downshift at around 45mph. After both rebuilds and now a new trans installed, the noise can still happen as it did on the way home immediately after the new trans was installed. I have just figured out how to drive and avoid the conditions that cause it to happen. (I have read where others that have the same noise believe it could be the drive shaft needing greasing. IDK)
MO probably falls in the rust belt, but I keep my truck clean. Anytime salt is laid down, I use a special attachment on my pressure washer to rinse underneath our vehicles. I will see if my friend who is the service manager at a Ford dealership can tell me torque specs and give that a shot.
The truck is paid off so I wouldn't be looking to trade. I valued it on KBB, NADA, and then compared listings across CarFax, CarGurus, and local dealers (within 50 miles) to give myself a best estimate on trade and possible Private Sale value. I'm guesstimating trade at $13-15K and Private Sale at $18K for what I have seen in my area.
16's that are very similar in options and mileage to mine seem to be listed for sale anywhere from $20-23K in my area and I'll be honest, I feel like mine looks to be in way better shape than a lot of the listings. I also think my area may be a touch over priced because if I am willing to travel 2 hours to the St Louis area I can find better deals (but of course they do more volume up there).
Selling myself would be the plan if we decide to change things up.
I am going to call the company the warranty is through today. Their wording is
"Covered Components: The customer acknowledges that the components covered will be the same as the original Factory Powertrain Warranty with the exception of the items listed herein as not covered under COVERAGES below.
This Warranty Covers:
Engine: Cylinder block and head and all internal parts, intake manifold, timing gears and gaskets, timing chain/belt and cover, flywheel, valve covers, oil pan, oil pump, engine mounts, turbocharger housing and all internal parts, supercharger housing and all internal parts, ECM, water pump, fuel pump, seals and gaskets."
So with that wording there may be a possibility that all of the current concerns could be covered since it's original Factory Powertrain plus what they listed. I am not getting my hopes up too high, though.
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AZjeff
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Have you lost confidence in the truck? No fun driving something you're just waiting for the next thing to fail. Also if you keep driving it as you have been by 2030 you'll be around 250k miles. Will it be what you want you son to have at that point?
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If you have a lifetime powertrain warranty are the oil leaks not covered or are they considered wear and tear?
In addition does the contract language have a time limit on lifetime?
Id be hung on the warranty as a bonus for a vehicle this old, especially if its going to become a handme down vehicle. Good luck findinf a replacement thats covered would be my concern'
I'd personally look at replacements in the market, but not move on one till end of summer.
Is there any truck you want that is going to be more reliable? It sounds like your transmission is covered forever, which seems to be a big plus these days?
I dunno, I kind of like going with the devil I know already, unless there has been significant improvements in parts quality in the new trucks?
I dunno, I kind of like going with the devil I know already, unless there has been significant improvements in parts quality in the new trucks?
Ford, IMO, overkills on electronics. I don't like excessive electronics, so I purposely bought a 2019 RAM Classic. That, and the RAM's great price at that time, and its stellar ride quality.
I hope the OP keeps his F150, it seems most of the issues are worked out. If however he decides to move on, check out the RAM Classic. I love the simpler design and lack of superfluous electronics. BTW the V6 Pentastar is awesome.
I hope the OP keeps his F150, it seems most of the issues are worked out. If however he decides to move on, check out the RAM Classic. I love the simpler design and lack of superfluous electronics. BTW the V6 Pentastar is awesome.
I wouldn't say I am not confident in the truck, but I do sometimes worry about what could pop up next just because of age and mileage.
The reason we contemplate keeping it for my son is that from 49K miles on I know exactly what has gone on with the truck. If we were to buy him something at 16 it would not be anything special nor something we would finance, so we figure passing on a vehicle we know the majority of the maintenance done and past repairs on seems to be a better idea than paying cash for something that will more than likely be high mileage and potentially unknown history on.
I honestly haven't looked deep into trucks in 4-5 years. I do know any F150 with the 10-speed is off my radar.
The LLPW that came with my current truck is for sure a plus and why we initally committed to keeping this truck long term. As long as repairs are covered, I pay a $100 deductible "for covered repairs per covered component" (their wording). So depending on what fails/breaks I could be out more than $100 in a single trip. I just worry about the possible failures/repairs that are not covered by it since it isn't a Bumper to Bumper like the expired warranty I had.
Any Ford '18 and newer and above an XLT is like an airliner cockpit compared to my truck! LOL.
RAM was my truck of choice before this Ford. May look into those again. I've also considered going away from a truck altogether, too as I don't do as many truck things as I used to: towing less, hunting less, etc. Friend of mine is selling a low-mileage Armada with the 5.6L and 8-speed trans and have half considered something like that. Has all the factory essentials in the case I would need to tow on ocassion.
My brother had an Armada. Excellent vehicle, excellent tow capacity. In fact, that's exactly why he bought it, it was one of the few gas vehicles capable of towing his XL RV. If you can get it for a good price jump on it!
In this case it did. Salt laden water wicked it way up into a connector for the front body control module and rotted a pin right of the obsolete BCM. This kind of thing is going to send more and more vehicles early to the crusher as time goes on.
And you often regret the last big chunk of money you put into a vehicle.
Just spent right at $575 on it in the last 2 weeks so not keen on the idea of selling at the moment
Front and Rear Diffs and T Case fluids changed and I changed my oil and filter.
The first 3 years I ran AMSOIL 5W20, mainly SS but did run XL one OCI. Right around 100K on the odometer I quit using AMSOIL and have since used Motorcraft FS (1X), Castrol EDGE (1X), Castrol Magnatec (1X), Valvoline EP (3X), Mobil 1 FS (1X), Valvoline EP HM (2X), and Quaker State FSHM (1X).
Have used 5w20, 5W30, 0W40.
OCI's varied from oil to oil. AMSOIL SS I would take to 9K, Valvoline EP went to about 7K, and all the others were ran about 4.5K to 6K OCI's.
I do like the look of the new Tundra's. Some of the colors they offer are pretty sharp, too!
Toyotas are really nice and good trucks,i had a 1985 4X4 ran till 248k till rust took it out (frame),,did very little repairs to it,,highly recommend them,, for oil ,amsoil ss would be my first choice if you got a new truck (i dont sell amsoil),,or even vavoline EP is a great oil,,good luck on your decisions
