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..simply a tire?


I've heard all sides ( your life depends on them) or (a tire is a tire). What do you say, BITOG?


My opinion-it really depends on what you are using it for. I can't say I've seen "bad" tires lately, as the market (even the made in china ones) have pretty much caught up.


For my Cav (my current case), it does mostly city driving, and less than 10k a year. Plus, I have a pretty stable size (14s), so I can pretty much put whatever I want, I guess.



What about you?
 
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Across all the cars we've owned, my family and I have had several kinds of cheap tires and several kinds of expensive tires. With one or maybe two exceptions, the more we paid for a tire (relative to the other offerings in that size and type), the better it was.
 
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Across all the cars we've owned, my family and I have had several kinds of cheap tires and several kinds of expensive tires. With one or maybe two exceptions, the more we paid for a tire (relative to the other offerings in that size and type), the better it was.


+1
 
if someone were on a budget i would recommend rather to have cheap new tyres than worn old ones.

the old adage you get what you pay for rings true. but you may not get much more for paying much more.
 
I personally don't feel a tire is a tire....but I take tires very seriously.

Whether it be dedicated snows, performance summers, etc. YMMV and even inexpensive tires can be pretty damm decent on the performance to $$ ratio. How it performs in rain, etc are all factors as well.
 
Only on snow do I care. And then a snow tire is a snow tire, even the worst are 85% as good as the good ones... and I can outhandle/outbrake the maroons on all seasons.

If I had to drive on some forsaken 4-lane beltway with bad drainage and 18 wheelers tailgating me at 75 MPH I might reconsider my stance on 3-season tires. But the people around here slow down, and let me slow down, when inclement weather or traffic conditions warrant. Since there are enough used tires at 5-20% of new price with 90% tread remaining, I get to try brands I otherwise wouldn't. Most are great. The following are not:

Republic (?) Kept going out of balance.
Sonar-- hard rubber all season compound; dreadfully unsafe in the snow. Wouldn't trust in rain either.
Michelen MXV4+ energy. Squishy sidewalls miserable on dry pavement. Dreadfully expensive too.

out of 25-30 I've brought home.

Even the cheap walmart douglas tire, I think, is pretty nice. It's only failing would be quick wear. Put these on cars I've flipped, they test drive nice and smooth, quiet, and with good wet/dry traction.
 
Originally Posted By: Spartuss
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Across all the cars we've owned, my family and I have had several kinds of cheap tires and several kinds of expensive tires. With one or maybe two exceptions, the more we paid for a tire (relative to the other offerings in that size and type), the better it was.


+1


+2 I've owned many different brands. Only one is my favorite now. I've begun to buy other brands only when my favorite (and usually most expensive) is not available in a size I need.

They say that you're only buying the name. And I agree. With a top brand name usually comes consistency. I've owned some pretty good cheap tires and some really lousy cheap tires. With my family on the road, I'll pay extra for a known quantity every time.
 
Originally Posted By: Jason Adcock
Originally Posted By: Spartuss
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Across all the cars we've owned, my family and I have had several kinds of cheap tires and several kinds of expensive tires. With one or maybe two exceptions, the more we paid for a tire (relative to the other offerings in that size and type), the better it was.


+1


+2 I've owned many different brands. Only one is my favorite now. I've begun to buy other brands only when my favorite (and usually most expensive) is not available in a size I need.

They say that you're only buying the name. And I agree. With a top brand name usually comes consistency. I've owned some pretty good cheap tires and some really lousy cheap tires. With my family on the road, I'll pay extra for a known quantity every time.



I've learned so much about tires fom you guys....


When it comes to the wife's car, I agree with ya. I love those Kelly Nav golds, along with the Mobil 1 oil. Can't mess with success.


With mine, I can be different....
 
Originally Posted By: daves87rs



With mine, I can be different....


Different cause your car does good on any tire?? Or you can be different cause it's YOU and not your wife??

Don't think that way, man....she'd miss you just as horribly as you'd miss her should something ever happen car related.

In my house, whether it's my truck, parents truck, or family members car, they all get high quality tires.....I might skimp a bit on an air filter, headlight brand, etc.....but I've never bought cheap tires just to get by.

There were times we couldn't buy groceries and had to eat the same thing for dinner a few nights in a row, repeatively to be able to pay for those tires....but I'd do it again too.

All 3 of my trucks are running high-end A/T tires, which are highly needed in my neck of woods....I don't bother with all-season tires in Colorado; they don't do me a darn bit of good in 3' of snow with a foot ice.

Currently running Yokomaha AT/S on a Tacoma, and Bridgestone Revo's on 2 other trucks; I have run, in the past, Goodyear Wrangler RT/S, won't EVER do that again!

My company truck has Goodyear Tracker 2's, they are horrible, super super scary on anything but a complete dry surface.
 
well, I think Micheline is the best, each tire hand inspected etc but they are not worth the price IMO as they last no longer then less expensive ones. In the past few years I have rotated towards the cheap end for tires, all are made by the large name brands under different names, all are safe and for me have provided basically the same mileage as the high priced ones Kuhmo is a great example of a reasonably priced tire. Now, it may depend on climate but for me it just does not seem to make much difference. Some are noisier then others etc.
 
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Originally Posted By: Ramblin Fever
Originally Posted By: daves87rs



With mine, I can be different....


Different cause your car does good on any tire?? Or you can be different cause it's YOU and not your wife??

Don't think that way, man....she'd miss you just as horribly as you'd miss her should something ever happen car related.

In my house, whether it's my truck, parents truck, or family members car, they all get high quality tires.....I might skimp a bit on an air filter, headlight brand, etc.....but I've never bought cheap tires just to get by.

There were times we couldn't buy groceries and had to eat the same thing for dinner a few nights in a row, repeatively to be able to pay for those tires....but I'd do it again too.

All 3 of my trucks are running high-end A/T tires, which are highly needed in my neck of woods....I don't bother with all-season tires in Colorado; they don't do me a darn bit of good in 3' of snow with a foot ice.

Currently running Yokomaha AT/S on a Tacoma, and Bridgestone Revo's on 2 other trucks; I have run, in the past, Goodyear Wrangler RT/S, won't EVER do that again!

My company truck has Goodyear Tracker 2's, they are horrible, super super scary on anything but a complete dry surface.



I didn't quite mean it that way, but thanks for the kind words!
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With hers, I make sure I get the best I can afford. WIth myself, I can be flexible.


If I have to go with a cheaper tire, I'd go with a brand I know and trust. A few examples would be a Kelly Explorer, Uniroyal Tiger Paw, Starfire sf340, and such. No "no name" cheapies for me....
 
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There have been MANY recalls of CHINESE made tires.

More people have been injured or killed on made in China tires than any other.

They just don't have the safety or manufacturing quality of USA
tires.
 
I would not buy Chinese design&manufacture tires, but I may buy brand name tires made in China. Example, Kumho made in China is acceptable, but Nankang is not.
 
Originally Posted By: ENGINEER60
There have been MANY recalls of CHINESE made tires.

More people have been injured or killed on made in China tires than any other.

They just don't have the safety or manufacturing quality of USA
tires.



There have been MANY recalls of FIRESTONE brand tires (millions and millions of tires).

Many people have been killed when tires manufactured by Firestone catastrophically failed.

And don't try to blame it on Ford's specs, or the 26 psi inflation recommendation. Goodyear made tires to meet that same spec and same recommended inflation, and their tires only failed at a small percentage of the Firestone tires.
 
Originally Posted By: ENGINEER60
There have been MANY recalls of CHINESE made tires.

More people have been injured or killed on made in China tires than any other.

They just don't have the safety or manufacturing quality of USA
tires.





Really? You need to read up then. Heard about Cooper's recall? Those were US made. Oh, and I can't forget about the goodyear recall...
 
I've always found Michelins to be worth the money.
Reliable performance in bad conditions, good puncture and damage resistance, quiet, smooth riding, stay in balance, and deliver long tread life.
You do get what you pay for.
OTOH, Khumos are okay in my experience, as are Hankooks.
The last set of Firestones I had were very good, while the Goodyear Aquatread IIIs were awful in snow, but were good in every other way.
For my money, though, I think Michelins are worth what you pay for them.
On a per mile basis, any tire is pretty cheap.
 
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
I've always found Michelins to be worth the money.
Reliable performance in bad conditions, good puncture and damage resistance, quiet, smooth riding, stay in balance, and deliver long tread life.
You do get what you pay for.
OTOH, Khumos are okay in my experience, as are Hankooks.
The last set of Firestones I had were very good, while the Goodyear Aquatread IIIs were awful in snow, but were good in every other way.
For my money, though, I think Michelins are worth what you pay for them.
On a per mile basis, any tire is pretty cheap.


Indeed sir. Well put.
 
Before we were married, my wife tried cheap tires on her vehicles (as in whatever she could find at the lowest price), with near disastrous results in the rain.

I used to be a Goodyear man, but after driving Michelins will stick with them...on our 04 Wrangler the Goodyears were finished by 39K, now the Michelins have almost 85k with another 15-20 to go.
 
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