What would be an acceptable charge time at a fast charger for you?

I'd love it if they installed wireless fast charging at busy intersections so you could top things off waiting for the red light to change. Figure out a handshaking between the grid and car for billing purposes.

That may not be all that practical. There is talk that the future of drayage may be EV tractors using wireless charging while they wait to receive their loads. Or roads that have charging coils.
 
That may not be all that practical. There is talk that the future of drayage may be EV tractors using wireless charging while they wait to receive their loads. Or roads that have charging coils.
Any health concerns? Living near high intensity power lines is not good for your health, I'd be worried about roads with charging coils.
 
EV battery companies are working to make batteries last longer, hold more energy, and charge faster.

What do you feel is an acceptable charging time if you use a fast charger?

I would like to see a 10-15 minute charge window myself.
That's going to be very difficult to accomplish w/out some serious cooling strategies (ex, liquified gases) and extremely high power cabling.
 
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If it's not the same amount of time (as filling an ICE vehicle), it's a waste of my time.
Oh, and the charge has to hold as long as gas stays fresh (useable) in my gas tank.

Anything less is a sad compromise.
I can take 10-15 minutes using the bathroom as I surf my phone......😁
 
How much do you drive, per day, per week, etc?
Depends; I travel a lot for work which is mostly with National rental cars, but I’d estimate about 25-27k over the last 18 months in the F150. Long-term fuel mileage on the dash which is over 10k continuous has me at 21.6mpg, and I’d estimate avg gas price over that time at probably $2.50-2.75 (I frequently mix E85 to make an E30 blend) which has been as cheap as $1.59 with GasBuddy recently. That includes some decent towing and usually 3-4 people in the cab.
 
I would be happy enough if it took 5 minutes to bring a 20-25% charge up to 75-80%, assuming all of the chargers worked and there wasn't a line of cars waiting taking another 10-15 minutes to get to the charger.
 
Certainly it makes sense to charge at home for a daily driver, especially since the costs are often lower.

There are people who are having issues charging at home because they might live in an apartment or condo where the setup may be difficult. But that can be offset if they work somewhere - especially given that many employers/office complexes have free charging setups. However, it seems like many are choosing to use DC fast charging as an alternative if there are no home or work charging options. It's also pretty popular among ride share drivers.

DC fast charging is supposed to make road trips more practical, although obviously many would like it if they had places like hotels providing complimentary charging. But still if there's a 500 mile driving day, there's going to need to be some charging stop.

We went on a day trip to the Monterey Peninsula in a Tesla Model 3 RWD with maybe a 271 mile estimated range. Getting back home on a 100% charge was iffy - especially give all the little side trips and unplanned stops. We weren't planning on stopping anywhere more more than maybe 90 minutes, so Level 2 charging wasn't going to cut it. We ended up charging twice. Once was before reaching Monterey just to alleviate our future range anxiety and also to take a break. The second was in Santa Cruz on the way home as we had decided to make another unplanned stop. But 20 minutes charging here or there helped a lot.
I think we are saying the same thing. I did mention the home charger was a conditional benefit as not everyone can avail themselves to this.

There is no ONE use case. If a use case works for someone, then by all means choose it. If not, don't.
 
Any health concerns? Living near high intensity power lines is not good for your health, I'd be worried about roads with charging coils.

I've ridden on trains running off of high-voltage catenaries. There are maglev trains. Linear induction motors powering roller coasters. I haven't really heard of any of these sources being a real health concern.
 
I want to see a battery "wear and tear" index and how each type of charging will reduce its expected lifespan and efficiency (you waste more energy if you have to cool the battery during fast charging). I want to know what people have done on each kind of charging in the lifespan when I buy a used car instead of just going by the age and miles.
 
I've ridden on trains running off of high-voltage catenaries. There are maglev trains. Linear induction motors powering roller coasters. I haven't really heard of any of these sources being a real health concern.
Long term? Some people spend hours a day on the road, day in day out. I wonder if any studies were done on people who work on those trains.
 
I think we are saying the same thing. I did mention the home charger was a conditional benefit as not everyone can avail themselves to this.

There is no ONE use case. If a use case works for someone, then by all means choose it. If not, don't.

Yeah - but I hear a lot of complaints where the individual's use case not working is the only use case that matters. To the point where they don't like it if businesses or governments subsidize EV charging because it doesn't benefit themselves.
 
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