My question is not now which everyone thinks EVs are seemingly forever, but what they can be in along with charging.
I think we are in interaction v1.0 now with battery tech with many iterations/innovations etc to go.
What would be an acceptable charge time at a fast charger for you?
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I think we are in interaction v1.0 now with battery tech with many iterations/innovations etc to go.
What agenda is pushed? the tech will change it’s a fair question what people think is reasonable if they’d think about adopting.
It’s not EV vs ICE , it’s more just two tech that will live in parallel with lines drawn in sand on a switch. We all know lines in sand move ….
I don't know anything about destination chargers, but Superchargers charge a fee for sitting on a Supercharger much past full. Where I used to work they had free charging but your cell was pinged when full. Something like that anyways, I never charged there.
I'd want mine combined with eating at Cracker Barrel or similar since I'd only charge away from home if traveling. So 30 minutes would be fine.
One thing for certain if they're in a 7-11, using them won't be cheap......
Reading some of the responses I gather not many know what the Ohm’s law is?
Why fret over such trivial things as the laws of physics
Seems like the new thing should be better than the old thing, but it isn't.
Yeah that's the one where it makes it illegal to plug space heaters into a power strip.Why fret over such trivial things as the laws of physics
I think that many of you are looking at this in the wrong way. According to KBB the average American drives 37 miles per day. If you can charge at home AND drive about those number of miles, then the time to charge doesn't really matter.
Okay, so let's say that you frequently drive 100 miles per day. Once again, the time to charge doesn't matter if you can charge at home.
Where the original question becomes relevant is when you frequently exceed the EV range of the vehicle in a single day. In my own case for 2023 I drove over 200 miles per day on a total of 18 days. On the majority of those days there were opportunities to charge overnight, and for free no less.
So in my case it wouldn't be a huge invenience to have to stop and charge for an hour, which sounds a lot like a decent luch break. Obviously some of you will have a different use case, but for the vast majority of Americans able to charge at home the time to charge really doesn't matter.
When you fill up your tank, you’re adding enough energy that if it were rocket fuel, it would send your car 29 miles high. Think about how much electrical energy that is. 100 kWh in 5 minutes would require 1.2 MW per car. Enough for a medium sized shopping center. That’s quite a short term jolt.
I think EVs need to be marketed as an around town car for people with 2 cars. Let’s face it, you don’t need a $40,000 piece of equipment to get groceries.
I think EVs need to be marketed as an around town car for people with 2 cars. Let’s face it, you don’t need a $40,000 piece of equipment to get groceries.
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I agree for the most part except for all those people that live in apartments.
We're further along than that. Certainly as far back as the 1900s where electric cars were pretty popular. Even the first modern production EV was the GM EV1 which started off with lead-acid batteries but later switched to NiMH.
The whole thing about fee-based charging is in its infancy though.
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Or, if it's a cold winter day! Sorry, please don't take it aggressively. I couldn't resist. Seriously, I'm not saying this as I have an answer but I have read and seen on TV (therefore it must be true!) recently that many owners have complained that the range they are given at the time of sale is not what they are getting in real life. I couldn't verify but if that is accurate and hey, everything I own with a battery doesn't quite have the level of performance it did when new. Father time gets us all!
**This was also a news story that was on the heels of the massive issues with the severe cold and chargers not working in multiple geographical areas.
Many, many condos in my area have a multitude of Level 2 chargers. Places like lower end apartments and older townhouse complexes are also starting to commonly have a lot of them. There will always be places that don't have them and where it would be inconvenient to have an EV but that will be less and less over time.
Rural areas, etc....maybe not so much.....
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Is that some sort of meditative mantra?
Actually - I'm an electrical engineer although I don't necessarily deal with Ohm's Law on a regular basis. My little piece of the puzzle is about 1s and 0s. And digital switching speed is more or less about RC delays than anything else.
Sometimes it gets a little bit weird though. I had a job interview several years ago where the interviewer let me in early while he was still interviewing a new grad candidate. I didn't intervene, but he was asking a fairly simple question and I would have thought one that a new grad would have seen but that an experienced candidate might not have thought about for years. But after the guy left I answered it pretty easily. It was really about explaining what's in an static RAM cell, which is just 6 transistors. Basically two cross-coupled inverters and two pass transistors. I barely thought about it over the years but remembered that.
Those recent news stories you refer to involve people going out in very cold temperatures with < 25% charge and then having to wait for a charge. Would you go out in zero degree weather in your ICE with less than a 1/4 tank? Persoanlly I think either scenario is just asking for trouble.
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