Why esp specifically? Especially over the other variants like euro formula?Mobil 1 ESP 0w30 or 5w30would be my choice in that engine.
"Euro" means it has European approvals. VW 504 00 is a demanding approval and that oil has it.Why esp specifically? Especially over the other variants like euro formula?
Edit: interesting some of the esp bottles also say euro formula. I have a black label euro formula up here too, got thrown off by the emissions system protection or whatever. But same question why esp over the others.
motul is the liquimoly of the subaru world. the owners are convinced it's the thing so dealers stock it. many of the independent euro shops around here stock liquimoly for the same reason. nothing to do what they think is better, they know it sells.Yea as soon as I saw green oil I was like ok idk about this. Who cares if it's green going in?
Interesting to know about motul. Used to see it at some dealerships like Subaru alot and was always curious
Mobil 1 C40 GT is also green. I read somewhere that the new oils that are GPF/DPF friendly are dyed green to show that are environmentally friendly. Those are mostly oils like Porsche C40 oils.Yea as soon as I saw green oil I was like ok idk about this. Who cares if it's green going in?
When you say mobil synthetic like the base mobil1 stuff at Walmart? Not the esp or extended performance or whatever other variant they got ?motul is the liquimoly of the subaru world. the owners are convinced it's the thing so dealers stock it. many of the independent euro shops around here stock liquimoly for the same reason. nothing to do what they think is better, they know it sells.
in motul's case they've really gotten in with the subaru brand, sponsoring factory race teams at various times. now the popular engine builders and many of the parts vendors sell motul kits.
for today's pricing their street oils are all fairly silly, I don't think x-cess or x-clean get you anything that you can't get from a sopus/mobil product at $5-6/qt. their gear oil is quite good and is my choice in my track toy.
fwiw, if I still had my Z, i'd be running Mobil 1 FS 0w40 without a second thought.
He means Mobil 1 in general, more so their top tier products which are the euro variants.When you say mobil synthetic like the base mobil1 stuff at Walmart? Not the esp or extended performance or whatever other variant they got ?
Ah I see got it. From what I can tell that's the plain old euro formula labeled on and the esp variantsHe means Mobil 1 in general, more so their top tier products which are the euro variants.
Maybe South Americans would, like in some 3rd world hot place. North Americans would probably run a euro spec 0/5w30/40heard alot of Americans run shell rotella?
Yeah and there's also people who track their car on Kirkland Signature, so these anecdotes don't carry a ton of weight. I'm sure he'd be doing just fine with M1 Euro FS 0W-40. @TiGeo did a poll once when he was at the track IIRC, and a handful of people were running Kirkland at the track...in VWs no less I believe.He's been doing this for years and has run LiquiMoly the entire time.
When you say mobil synthetic like the base mobil1 stuff at Walmart? Not the esp or extended performance or whatever other variant they got ?
No, I mean specifically the higher-tier mobil 1 products (which still fall into that $5-6/qt pricing at walmart). ESP, Euro FS. SOPUS equivalents would be Quaker State Euro 5w40, Pennzoil Euro L 5w30, LX 0w30, Euro 5w40. There are some minute differences but a VQ doesn't really ask for much. It's a mid-2000s, port-injected V6, it doesn't need fancy mid-SAPS stuff but it doesn't hurt either. Hence suggesting 0w40 FS.He means Mobil 1 in general, more so their top tier products which are the euro variants.
You missed my point.Yeah and there's also people who track their car on Kirkland Signature, so these anecdotes don't carry a ton of weight. I'm sure he'd be doing just fine with M1 Euro FS 0W-40. @TiGeo did a poll once when he was at the track IIRC, and a handful of people were running Kirkland at the track...in VWs no less I believe.![]()
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