does anyone know where the Pennzoil R&D is taking place? America or Holland
What is with the PU frenzy?
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Originally Posted By: daves87rs
Originally Posted By: bretfraz
If we can't talk about a new motor oil on the largest oil discussion forum on the internet, what can we talk about?
Doesn't BITOG exist to be a forum for this very thing to occur, discussing new lubricants with like-minded individuals?
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Granted things go nuts sometimes.....
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I mean, come on, how often is there "excitement" on an oil forum?
My wife laughs at me when I say I'm on here, and when I hit refresh lately, there's lots of new threads.
People - you can choose to IGNORE threads that don't interest you.
I for one like hearing opinions and excitement here.
I might be a nOOb in the sense I'm new to register, but I've been here for years.
If you listen to some folks, we should just have 12 stickies and lock 'er down.
I prefer to actually have action here!
Originally Posted By: bretfraz
If we can't talk about a new motor oil on the largest oil discussion forum on the internet, what can we talk about?
Doesn't BITOG exist to be a forum for this very thing to occur, discussing new lubricants with like-minded individuals?
+2
Granted things go nuts sometimes.....
+3
I mean, come on, how often is there "excitement" on an oil forum?
My wife laughs at me when I say I'm on here, and when I hit refresh lately, there's lots of new threads.
People - you can choose to IGNORE threads that don't interest you.
I for one like hearing opinions and excitement here.
I might be a nOOb in the sense I'm new to register, but I've been here for years.
If you listen to some folks, we should just have 12 stickies and lock 'er down.
I prefer to actually have action here!
People are missing my point. How about we at least wait until the oil has been run by people for 6 months to a year and we get some used oil analysis and actual hands on usage to look at before getting so excited about it and proclaiming it the next big thing. I am not saying don't talk about it, don't be excited about it, or that anything is wrong with Pennzoil( I said PP is darn good oil ).
Just simply saying I think the hysteria is a bit over blown on something that is brand new and we don't know yet if it will live up to the hype or not. Seems like it is being talked about everywhere as if we already know it is great. We don't know that yet. It JUST came out and isn't even available everywhere yet. I have already seen people recommending it when someone asks what is the best oil for them however. How can you do that with something so new? THAT is more what I am getting at. Not don't be excited but how about keeping some perspective.
Also, as Pablo said, I started this thread seperate rather than "poop in someones PU thread". I apologize if I offended anyone.
Just simply saying I think the hysteria is a bit over blown on something that is brand new and we don't know yet if it will live up to the hype or not. Seems like it is being talked about everywhere as if we already know it is great. We don't know that yet. It JUST came out and isn't even available everywhere yet. I have already seen people recommending it when someone asks what is the best oil for them however. How can you do that with something so new? THAT is more what I am getting at. Not don't be excited but how about keeping some perspective.
Also, as Pablo said, I started this thread seperate rather than "poop in someones PU thread". I apologize if I offended anyone.
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I think you are taking some of these comments too seriously. Most of us laugh at ourselves over this kind of stuff. Sure we all think it's going to be a great oil, but at the same time it's just kind of fun to be silly sometimes. Especially something so niche as oil connoisseur'ing. lol
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
People are missing my point. How about we at least wait until the oil has been run by people for 6 months to a year and we get some used oil analysis and actual hands on usage to look at before getting so excited about it and proclaiming it the next big thing.
I haven't heard anything about it other than that it looks promising. A few people are getting excited about it but I haven't seen the hysteria you're talking about.
Could you perhaps provide some examples?
People are missing my point. How about we at least wait until the oil has been run by people for 6 months to a year and we get some used oil analysis and actual hands on usage to look at before getting so excited about it and proclaiming it the next big thing.
I haven't heard anything about it other than that it looks promising. A few people are getting excited about it but I haven't seen the hysteria you're talking about.
Could you perhaps provide some examples?
Boy 3 pages already.
M1 is a good oil
,,we got too much time on our hands
M1 is a good oil
BECAUSE IT'S A NEW OIL.
...................and has a Tbn of 13 with a stout additive package.
As far as waiting for used oil analysis, that will only tell you so much.
You can base quality just by reading the label on the bottle.
Exceeds API SN, HTO-06, GM 4718M, ACEA A1/B1/A5/B5.
The oil can't suck and meet those specs. It can certainly be overrated. Let's see how the used oil analysis start looking.
...................and has a Tbn of 13 with a stout additive package.
As far as waiting for used oil analysis, that will only tell you so much.
You can base quality just by reading the label on the bottle.
Exceeds API SN, HTO-06, GM 4718M, ACEA A1/B1/A5/B5.
The oil can't suck and meet those specs. It can certainly be overrated. Let's see how the used oil analysis start looking.
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
People are missing my point. How about we at least wait until the oil has been run by people for 6 months to a year and we get some used oil analysis and actual hands on usage to look at before getting so excited about it and proclaiming it the next big thing.
I haven't heard anything about it other than that it looks promising. A few people are getting excited about it but I haven't seen the hysteria you're talking about.
Could you perhaps provide some examples?
You can't be serious...there are MULTIPLE threads about this oil, one was 30 pages long. Heck it even drifted to the rebate section where someone wanted to discuss "if PU was going to have a rebate"...
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
People are missing my point. How about we at least wait until the oil has been run by people for 6 months to a year and we get some used oil analysis and actual hands on usage to look at before getting so excited about it and proclaiming it the next big thing.
I haven't heard anything about it other than that it looks promising. A few people are getting excited about it but I haven't seen the hysteria you're talking about.
Could you perhaps provide some examples?
You can't be serious...there are MULTIPLE threads about this oil, one was 30 pages long. Heck it even drifted to the rebate section where someone wanted to discuss "if PU was going to have a rebate"...
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
I am very serious. Discussion does not count as hysteria. I was asking for examples of hysteria.
OMG - my John Deere can now plow 2x as many acres!~
And that's one day on PZU!
Does that count?
I am very serious. Discussion does not count as hysteria. I was asking for examples of hysteria.
OMG - my John Deere can now plow 2x as many acres!~
And that's one day on PZU!
Does that count?
OK - so define "hysteria".
Perhaps 4 different topics in an internet forum, each with multiple pages of posts, only rises to the level of "excitement" - or maybe just "stir"?
Perhaps 4 different topics in an internet forum, each with multiple pages of posts, only rises to the level of "excitement" - or maybe just "stir"?
It is magic!!!
I'm with doodfood and others who don't see the hysteria......sure people are a little over excited, but c'mon man this is BITOG. If you are going to see a little excitement for a new oil where else but here would you expect to see it?
Plus PP is a really good oil. When a hundred+ year old company claims they have something better than their current best, I'm willing to listen.
Plus PP is a really good oil. When a hundred+ year old company claims they have something better than their current best, I'm willing to listen.
I think seperate oil forums for different brands would be awesome, and sorry if some are excluded... just the popular ones should be in it or general subforums......
Mobil
Penzoil
Castrol
Valvoline
Factory branded oils
Boutique oils
and someone commented earlier about how good of a job Pennzoil is doing promoting the oil...... are you serious? is pennzoil even promoting the oil at all? lol......... most places won't even carry the oil, and the one sure bet place that even sells the oil with the Walmart name on it.... doesn't even carry it in the 5 walmarts I've been to around here...... do they even have a TV commercial about it? everyone was so hyped up about it, "oh man, they are gonna introduce it at the superbowl" then it was the Daytona 500........ welp... I"m still waiting
Mobil
Penzoil
Castrol
Valvoline
Factory branded oils
Boutique oils
and someone commented earlier about how good of a job Pennzoil is doing promoting the oil...... are you serious? is pennzoil even promoting the oil at all? lol......... most places won't even carry the oil, and the one sure bet place that even sells the oil with the Walmart name on it.... doesn't even carry it in the 5 walmarts I've been to around here...... do they even have a TV commercial about it? everyone was so hyped up about it, "oh man, they are gonna introduce it at the superbowl" then it was the Daytona 500........ welp... I"m still waiting
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It's just something for us to talk about. I get what you're saying, but we don't get a new, significant oil product every day. The fact that this tale started with back-room intrigue in Alaska and the story was broken on BITOG has bit to do with it, too, I suspect. And some of it is GF-5 anticipation.
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We'll probably have a lower level revolution/evolution occurring here. When GC came on to the scene it was in the midst of the VW/AUDI debacle where Euro's over sold their product with limited distribution of the exclusively spec'd oils required to maintain them. It was a solution that already had a problem. Shortly after that (around 2002+/-) there was a massive reinvention in the market to expand distribution of Euro spec'd oils.
Now we're on the cusp of another like evolution/revolutio with GF5 ..but I think it's not as radical. It's not born out of hindsight necessity in "catch on and catching up".
So, by all means party up. Amazing things are occurring and will continue to occur. I hope that we can manage to get the utility out of these new lubricants on the demand end.
Now we're on the cusp of another like evolution/revolutio with GF5 ..but I think it's not as radical. It's not born out of hindsight necessity in "catch on and catching up".
So, by all means party up. Amazing things are occurring and will continue to occur. I hope that we can manage to get the utility out of these new lubricants on the demand end.
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I agree, I mean I actually love the excitement, but why so many different threads? It LOOKS cheezy, or rather it makes BITOG look really silly.
Can the mods step in a bit here? Combine threads? Why do we need a new thread every time someone can or can't find it, or it's on discount, etc.?
Either start a whole PU section, "new" oil section, or one one long running thread.
It also DOES look stupid for the guys who have been around for awhile to get all weak in the knees for an oil that has yet to prove anything. I think PU looks great on paper, but have we learned nothing??
I agree wholeheartedly.
Well, if you think that's bad, go to the Science and Technology of Oils and Lubricant Additives section.
Totally trashed. Few on-topic posts. People just dump whatever in there with no consideration for what the Topic is really about.
And no mod editing that I can see.
I agree, I mean I actually love the excitement, but why so many different threads? It LOOKS cheezy, or rather it makes BITOG look really silly.
Can the mods step in a bit here? Combine threads? Why do we need a new thread every time someone can or can't find it, or it's on discount, etc.?
Either start a whole PU section, "new" oil section, or one one long running thread.
It also DOES look stupid for the guys who have been around for awhile to get all weak in the knees for an oil that has yet to prove anything. I think PU looks great on paper, but have we learned nothing??
I agree wholeheartedly.
Well, if you think that's bad, go to the Science and Technology of Oils and Lubricant Additives section.
Totally trashed. Few on-topic posts. People just dump whatever in there with no consideration for what the Topic is really about.
And no mod editing that I can see.
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Originally Posted By: MolaKule
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I agree, I mean I actually love the excitement, but why so many different threads? It LOOKS cheezy, or rather it makes BITOG look really silly.
Can the mods step in a bit here? Combine threads? Why do we need a new thread every time someone can or can't find it, or it's on discount, etc.?
Either start a whole PU section, "new" oil section, or one one long running thread.
It also DOES look stupid for the guys who have been around for awhile to get all weak in the knees for an oil that has yet to prove anything. I think PU looks great on paper, but have we learned nothing??
I agree wholeheartedly.
Well, if you think that's bad, go to the Science and Technology of Oils and Lubricant Additives section.
Totally trashed. Few on-topic posts. People just dump whatever in there with no consideration for what the Topic is really about.
And no mod editing that I can see.
Time to teach some clases, I see.
I think the sheer number of people here is part of the problem. That is quite a large mix of people.
I'm still a noob (but I'm learning), but I'm all for learning all I can about the A&S of oil.
For some of us, it might have to be simplifed though.
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I agree, I mean I actually love the excitement, but why so many different threads? It LOOKS cheezy, or rather it makes BITOG look really silly.
Can the mods step in a bit here? Combine threads? Why do we need a new thread every time someone can or can't find it, or it's on discount, etc.?
Either start a whole PU section, "new" oil section, or one one long running thread.
It also DOES look stupid for the guys who have been around for awhile to get all weak in the knees for an oil that has yet to prove anything. I think PU looks great on paper, but have we learned nothing??
I agree wholeheartedly.
Well, if you think that's bad, go to the Science and Technology of Oils and Lubricant Additives section.
Totally trashed. Few on-topic posts. People just dump whatever in there with no consideration for what the Topic is really about.
And no mod editing that I can see.
Time to teach some clases, I see.
I think the sheer number of people here is part of the problem. That is quite a large mix of people.
I'm still a noob (but I'm learning), but I'm all for learning all I can about the A&S of oil.
For some of us, it might have to be simplifed though.
Originally Posted By: OilNerd
It's just something for us to talk about. I get what you're saying, but we don't get a new, significant oil product every day. The fact that this tale started with back-room intrigue in Alaska and the story was broken on BITOG has bit to do with it, too, I suspect. And some of it is GF-5 anticipation.
Good point.
It's just something for us to talk about. I get what you're saying, but we don't get a new, significant oil product every day. The fact that this tale started with back-room intrigue in Alaska and the story was broken on BITOG has bit to do with it, too, I suspect. And some of it is GF-5 anticipation.
Good point.
Hey, if grown men want to run around with their hands in the air shrieking like teenage girls, then who am I to stop them?
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