Originally Posted By: Captain_Klink
The point is that you get the EXACTLY SAME LONGEVITY with Mobil 1, or Pennzoil Platinum, or probably even BozoTheClown Brand SM oil, PP easily can run just as long as Mobil 1.
In the majority of applications, I am sure you are correct. However, an oil like Mobil 1 0w40 is not covered here, and there are a number of high-performance applications that specify this oil, or a certification that this oil and very few others meet.
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Nowhere have I seen any shred of evidence that there is the tiniest bit of advantage running Mobil 1 vs any other synthetic.
I'm sure if you asked Porsche, GM, Mercedes, Honda or any other manufacturer that does extensive in-house testing of a variety of oils that they could give you a reason.
Mobil 1 was the first oil to meet Honda's demanding HT-06 specification for example.
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And everywhere we see BozoTheClown Brand oil changed every 3-5K with NO ISSUES.
Even the Toyota sludge-prone engines eh?
Nope.
There are a number of applications, like the one I just touched on that benefit from the use of a synthetic oil. These are NOT the majority of applications of course, but they do exist.
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Of course Mobil has a premium formulation, made for racing, but the don't sell that to us.
Our very own Pennzoil Johnny made a thread about the use of off the shelf Mobil 1 being run in the vast majority of cars at Daytona.
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What we get is a jug with the NAME Mobil 1 on it, but what is inside the bottle is a product that is GUARANTEED TO MAXIMIZE SHAREHOLDER PROFIT, that is how a corporation works.
And you have ZERO proof that the product is in any way inferior. In fact the vast assortment of manufacturer certifications and approvals; more than ANY other oil company, is a good indication that what is IN the bottle is BETTER in many respects, and TESTED to be better BECAUSE of those specs, than the vast majority of readily-available oils out there.
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A Corporation IS REQUIRED BY LAW to do that.
To make money? Yeah, that's the typical goal of capitalism. That does not mean that one sabotages their own product line in order to artificially inflate their profit margins though.
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My current DD has 200,000 miles on it, and it has been fed a steady diet of CONVENTIONAL OIL ONLY 5w30 SJ, SL, and nowSM. This is just a Mitsubishi 1.5l 12valve OHC 4 Banger. It uses zero oil. It runs so quiet you can barely hear it, it runs like a top, and I recently took it up to 90 miles per hour on the interstate as a test, and it runs perfectly silent at that speed, with no sign of being short on power.
I'm not sure how 92HP could be another OTHER than short on power, but anyways....
MOST engines will live a long an event-free life on an approved off-the-shelf conventional lubricant.
There are SPECIFIC SITUATIONS where a particular engine or application REQUIRES THE USE of an oil that has a certain approval or certification above and beyond the basic API one, and the vast majority of these applications are PERFORMANCE ORIENTED.
This is the REASON companies like Mercedes, Porsche, Honda, VW, Audi, SAAB, Ford, GM, Chrysler, Ferrari....etc create these additional certifications; they need the oil to provide ADDITIONAL protection above and beyond the scope of what is dictated by the testing done by/on behalf of the API. They create their own unique tests that must be performed, and then, where the situation demands, SPECIFY THE USE of oil that MEETS that certification.
Mobil 1 happens to be the oil that meets the most of those certifications. They are usually the FIRST to meet those certifications and to garner those approvals as well.
Love or hate the product, Exxon-Mobil SPENDS the money on R&D as well as on certifications and approvals so that you know what you are getting: An oil that meets the most demanding manufacturer specs across the globe, and subsequently covers the broadest range of applications.
And yeah, they are the most profitable company of all-time but hey, that doesn't mean they make junk. Which seems to be your train of thought here.
