What is the highest QUALITY Mobil 1 30 weight - Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w30, 5w30, 5w30 Truck & Suv, 5w30 Extended, 10w30, 10w30 High mileage, or 10w30 Extended ? Which one has the most PAO ? Any one have analysis of each back to back ? I know Extended has 50% more "Super Syn" than regular & that Truck & Suv has a boosted level in between. What is "Super Syn"? I am in Sunny Florida where I rarely see any early morning temp below 40 during winter. It is going in a 4 cyl 16 valve [censored] engine with less than 20,000 miles. Thanks in advance for the replies.
What is the highest QUALITY Mobil 1 30 weight ?
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EP has the highest percentage of PAO,hence the "15,000 mile" reference on the back of the bottle. you will see no such reference on the goup III based oils
oddly enough, their EP oil is not certified for the GM 4708 high heat spec (corvette)
oddly enough, their EP oil is not certified for the GM 4708 high heat spec (corvette)
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Originally Posted By: joflewbyu2
What is the highest QUALITY Mobil 1 30 weight - Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w30, 5w30, 5w30 Truck & Suv, 5w30 Extended, 10w30, 10w30 High mileage, or 10w30 Extended ?... ... ... I am in Sunny Florida where I rarely see any early morning temp below 40 during winter. It is going in a 4 cyl 16 valve [censored] engine with less than 20,000 miles. Thanks in advance for the replies.
PAO is not a good "high temp" base stock. In Fl you would want a group-V di-ester based oil. You got to look to the european oils for this. And you will get a full synthetic for your trouble - NO guessing or bologna as in the States. Brands such as Fuchs and Motul.
What is the highest QUALITY Mobil 1 30 weight - Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w30, 5w30, 5w30 Truck & Suv, 5w30 Extended, 10w30, 10w30 High mileage, or 10w30 Extended ?... ... ... I am in Sunny Florida where I rarely see any early morning temp below 40 during winter. It is going in a 4 cyl 16 valve [censored] engine with less than 20,000 miles. Thanks in advance for the replies.
PAO is not a good "high temp" base stock. In Fl you would want a group-V di-ester based oil. You got to look to the european oils for this. And you will get a full synthetic for your trouble - NO guessing or bologna as in the States. Brands such as Fuchs and Motul.
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No, I meant joflewbyu2 just asked this question in ek's 0W20 thread.
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But didn't my little rant did have some value?
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No, I meant joflewbyu2 just asked this question in ek's 0W20 thread.
Oh OK.
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
PAO is not a good "high temp" base stock. In Fl you would want a group-V di-ester based oil. You got to look to the european oils for this. And you will get a full synthetic for your trouble - NO guessing or bologna as in the States. Brands such as Fuchs and Motul.
Ester based oil is major overkill, unless it's a high performance vehicle. A group III based oil will perform just fine.
PAO is not a good "high temp" base stock. In Fl you would want a group-V di-ester based oil. You got to look to the european oils for this. And you will get a full synthetic for your trouble - NO guessing or bologna as in the States. Brands such as Fuchs and Motul.
Ester based oil is major overkill, unless it's a high performance vehicle. A group III based oil will perform just fine.
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Originally Posted By: BrianWC
No, I meant joflewbyu2 just asked this question in ek's 0W20 thread.
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But didn't my little rant did have some value?
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Originally Posted By: BrianWC
No, I meant joflewbyu2 just asked this question in ek's 0W20 thread.
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IMO the plain jane Mobil 1 10W30.
Mobil would tell you they are all high quality.
Just read the openeing paragraph of each product data sheet.
Just read the openeing paragraph of each product data sheet.
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Originally Posted By: BrianWC
No, I meant joflewbyu2 just asked this question in ek's 0W20 thread.
I asked and got this answer by chevrofreak:
The 0w30 is about 70% PAO. I think their 5w30's and 10w30's are under 40%, but don't quote me on that. I think the 0w30 is better than any of their other 30 weight oil.
I would like to see if anybody else has anything to add. The "think" & "don't quote me" makes me uncomfortable with his answer.
No, I meant joflewbyu2 just asked this question in ek's 0W20 thread.
I asked and got this answer by chevrofreak:
The 0w30 is about 70% PAO. I think their 5w30's and 10w30's are under 40%, but don't quote me on that. I think the 0w30 is better than any of their other 30 weight oil.
I would like to see if anybody else has anything to add. The "think" & "don't quote me" makes me uncomfortable with his answer.
I would guess the 0w30 that Mobil discontinued was probably their highest quality 30 weight. Seemed more like a cousin to their 0W-40. The Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w30 (currently selling) does not have as low a pour point. Was it labeled as a European Formula I can't remember?
If you pour German Castrol into an empty Mobil 1 bottle you will have Mobil 1's highest quality 30 weight.
If you pour German Castrol into an empty Mobil 1 bottle you will have Mobil 1's highest quality 30 weight.
Group III is fine for most, but if your going to get a syn, might as well be a long life with a top formulation, which is what the OP was looking for. For some unk reason he thinks PAO is the magic bullet that its not. In my past usage of such, grpV majority based oils perform MUCH better on the road than the group-IIIs by not a small margin.
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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Group III is fine for most, but if your going to get a syn, might as well be a long life with a top formulation, which is what the OP was looking for. For some unk reason he thinks PAO is the magic bullet that its not. In my past usage of such, grpV majority based oils perform MUCH better on the road than the group-IIIs by not a small margin.
But since you have not had a engine last past 45k in the last 10 years how are you coming up with this data?
Just wondering as most of us here consider 45k barely broken in...
Bill
Group III is fine for most, but if your going to get a syn, might as well be a long life with a top formulation, which is what the OP was looking for. For some unk reason he thinks PAO is the magic bullet that its not. In my past usage of such, grpV majority based oils perform MUCH better on the road than the group-IIIs by not a small margin.
But since you have not had a engine last past 45k in the last 10 years how are you coming up with this data?
Just wondering as most of us here consider 45k barely broken in...
Bill
Originally Posted By: Art_Vandelay
I would guess the 0w30 that Mobil discontinued was probably their highest quality 30 weight. Seemed more like a cousin to their 0W-40. The Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w30 (currently selling) does not have as low a pour point. Was it labeled as a European Formula I can't remember?
If you pour German Castrol into an empty Mobil 1 bottle you will have Mobil 1's highest quality 30 weight.
Art:
I have not bothered to compare the pour points myself, but that said, there is a statement on the Mobil site to the effect that the "old" Mobil 1 0w30 is the same product that's now sold under the green cap. Here is the "blocked and copied" text from the Mobil web site:
Originally Posted By: Mobil's site
Haven’t you been offering Mobil 1 0W-20 and Mobil 1 0w30 already? What’s different about Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy?
They are the same formulations as the products marketed prior to 2008. As the importance of fuel economy has increased, we felt it was important to communicate to consumers which products in the Mobil 1 family offer the greatest potential for improved fuel economy. Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy oils are engineered to deliver outstanding engine protection while improving fuel economy.
You can see the actual text for yourself at the Mobil website, click here.
I would guess the 0w30 that Mobil discontinued was probably their highest quality 30 weight. Seemed more like a cousin to their 0W-40. The Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w30 (currently selling) does not have as low a pour point. Was it labeled as a European Formula I can't remember?
If you pour German Castrol into an empty Mobil 1 bottle you will have Mobil 1's highest quality 30 weight.
Art:
I have not bothered to compare the pour points myself, but that said, there is a statement on the Mobil site to the effect that the "old" Mobil 1 0w30 is the same product that's now sold under the green cap. Here is the "blocked and copied" text from the Mobil web site:
Originally Posted By: Mobil's site
Haven’t you been offering Mobil 1 0W-20 and Mobil 1 0w30 already? What’s different about Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy?
They are the same formulations as the products marketed prior to 2008. As the importance of fuel economy has increased, we felt it was important to communicate to consumers which products in the Mobil 1 family offer the greatest potential for improved fuel economy. Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy oils are engineered to deliver outstanding engine protection while improving fuel economy.
You can see the actual text for yourself at the Mobil website, click here.
Good catch ekpolk. I saw that too when I did a little research before I bought the two five quart jug limit on the rebate of $10 each. I also noticed a little different description on the Product Data Sheet of regular Mobil 1 10w30 that could lead one to believe it is their highest quality. "Mobil 1 10w30 is the most advanced performance synthetic engine oil & Mobil 1 10w30 is made with a patented proprietary blend of ultra high performance synthetic basestocks fortified with the most advanced additive system available today". The words "most and ultra" are the ones giving me a warm fuzzy feeling. The 0w-40 also use the same wording. 5w30 does not use most or ultra.
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