I don't believe I mentioned "deserving" anything in my post so not sure if you are point that at me or not. I agree with you but again, I'll state that at some point, we have a lot of people and if those masses can't all have a job that provides the basics, those "with" will be a minority vs. those "without" and that isn't a great place to be for any of us. The automation issue will compound this problem b/c as you say, many jobs can be automated...take long-haul truck drivers...they will be gone so again I ask....so those folks shoud "get f'd" b/c they chose poorly? ..we sure are happy they are driving today to deliver all our goodies. Tough decisions for all of us are ahead!
What exactly is a "Living wage"?
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Yep - it's not a pretty future at this point to me but I'll enjoy things while I can. Too many people and too few jobs that provide "a living wage" = the movie Elisium in my mind.
Not pointing at you, just a general comment about society in general. We are all entitled one way or another.
Automation is not only about eliminating the low cost boring jobs, but also making hard to do expensive jobs easier and cheaper. Giving an AI tablet to a delivery driver, and he can become a very productive delivery driver at a lower cost. Giving it to a mom with a kid who couldn't afford childcare in the summer, and now she can watch her kid while "working" delivering takeout foods instead of collecting welfare checks. A new grad now can do engineering work that previously may need a PhD to do, because we have a lot of computer power at $500 per laptop.
The numbers will eventually balance out, and people will decide whether it is worth doing something or paying for something or not. They also will decide how many kids they want to have and when do they start their families.
Agreed - population is going to be our biggest issue.
If we think it's bad now, wait until automation gets fully implemented into the retail and fast food sector. It won't be long before you go to McDs drive-thru from placing the order, to paying for the order, to picking up the order and leaving without ever seeing a human being. The pandemic has only accelerated this mindset among business owners as computers don't have to social distance, wash hands, wear masks, or quarantine. They are always on time for work, never call out, never get sick (at least not in the conventional sense), and you can pay 1 tech $20/hr to maintain them vs paying 10 employees $15/hr. If people aren't careful, they'll not only find themselves laid off, but their position dissolved completely.
Absolutely as a long time resident of Nassau county I am fully aware.
However people escape Long Island all the time because it’s the highest property taxed region in the country and the major cause of this is the police and school budgets.
With that said I knew officers from all over the place it’s a choice you make no one is forced to do anything.
My choice was to get out of there, ridiculous paying $1000 a month for property taxes on a small home in a decaying urban atmosphere.
Moving south my home is 300% larger and taxes 80% less in one of the states best school districts too!
Anyone who works can do the same, being free is a good thing.
New York State now has to bribe college students by offering them free college if they sign a contract to remain in the state for five years after they graduate. Something is wrong up north
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I knew an architect friend from 25 years back. He lives in Queen bordering Long Island because of the property tax rate. He wasn't mentioning about police or public sector employee being the cause but the property density.Absolutely as a long time resident of Nassau county I am fully aware.
However people escape Long Island all the time because it’s the highest property taxed region in the country and the major cause of this is the police and school budgets.
With that said I knew officers from all over the place it’s a choice you make no one is forced to do anything.
My choice was to get out of there, ridiculous paying $1000 a month for property taxes on a small home in a decaying urban atmosphere.
Moving south my home is 300% larger and taxes 80% less in one of the states best school districts too!
Anyone who works can do the same, being free is a good thing.
New York State now has to bribe college students by offering them free college if they sign a contract to remain in the state for five years after they graduate. Something is wrong up north
It is always there, nothing new under the sun.
Imagine people from 200 years ago talking about fast food, microwave, drive through, self service, and camp fire cooking being a luxury vs eating a machine made hamburger frozen then warmed with electricity.
People are doing all sorts of things to make life cheaper, easier to DIY, to save a few bucks, and eventually we'll have unmanned microwave locker vending machine like in South Korea and Japan. Life goes on, people will still find jobs, and people will still eat.
Never underestimate the amount of effort customers will DIY to save a few bucks, so self service is the future.
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Value goes up with scarcity. I didn’t miss it, I simply didn’t state a given.
If more people become available, the wage will go down.
If not, and the wage demanded isn’t sustainable for the business, other means may be employed. Automation, additional duties for existing workers. I.E give some workers a raise, but increase the job requirements. IE you don’t just take tickets, you also clean up between showings.
And other means I probably don’t even consider since I’m not in the industry.
There is no simple answer. Depends on the product. But basically, Econ teaches us prices will rise as long as consumption does not drop to an unacceptable point. It gets more complicated past that.
Yep. Been true since the beginning of time. Every product has a lifecycle.
I agree that "something is wrong up north" but I'd get a time out for saying what that 'mental disorder' is.Absolutely as a long time resident of Nassau county I am fully aware.
However people escape Long Island all the time because it’s the highest property taxed region in the country and the major cause of this is the police and school budgets.
With that said I knew officers from all over the place it’s a choice you make no one is forced to do anything.
My choice was to get out of there, ridiculous paying $1000 a month for property taxes on a small home in a decaying urban atmosphere.
Moving south my home is 300% larger and taxes 80% less in one of the states best school districts too!
Anyone who works can do the same, being free is a good thing.
New York State now has to bribe college students by offering them free college if they sign a contract to remain in the state for five years after they graduate. Something is wrong up north
Something you can’t live on.
As others have posted, nailing down what a living wage is, is tough. But is should be able to lift one outta poverty.
Where you happen to be located makes a huge difference; it is key.
I believe talent and strong work ethic is spread fairly evenly everywhere; opportunity is not.
Regardless, there is a quote somewhere, "Don't punk out and quit."
Where you happen to be located makes a huge difference; it is key.
I believe talent and strong work ethic is spread fairly evenly everywhere; opportunity is not.
Regardless, there is a quote somewhere, "Don't punk out and quit."
Good for you, I don't miss 3am calls for sure. Manual labor can be very different, you may be folding t-shirts all day and put them on shelves, or being roofer in TX heat...
Talk to some older people sometime. Some of them have a real disconnect between their past experience and today's reality. They'll say young adults should simply buy a house as they did in their 20s, then brag that their own houses are worth X times what they paid decades ago.
Some not as old are in the same mindset. Their attitude is that they worked summer jobs and paid for college/university without much debt 30–40 years ago, so today's young adults should be able to do the same. There is no comprehension that higher-ed costs have shot up much faster than inflation since 1990.
I still think poverty is as much a mindset as it is a status. There's some people you could gift $1 million, and they'd be broke again in a week. There's others you could gift $1 million, and they'd turn it into $5 million.
In before the lock!
The $15 an hr argument to flip burgers us dead. McDonalds is paying nearly $20 an hr. All shifts. Full time opportunity with benefits.
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