Jim I never knew you had so many talents. Have to see video how you spin nylon. I’m intrigued
Moog claims play in CDJR ball joints is normal. I find it convenient for Moog 'cause they suck.Really rough day today in the garage at work. Just typical non sense I guess. I done a used car end of April and they sold it 5 days ago but it’s had 900 miles put on it from being used as a lot shuttle and customer test drives and all of that. Well comes in with bad ball joints and I got my tail chewed because they are saying the ball joints were bad when I done the car in April because they are like it’s impossible for a ball joint to just go bad and if it does go bad it’s not going to be instant it’s going to be a few hundred miles that it goes bad over sometimes thousands of miles. So I got written up and am being back flagged over it. I went up to my coworker who is a very seasoned tech and I’m like hey so a ball joint can it go bad like right away because I mean you hit a pothole or something too hard and it can go bad or just go bad from getting weak right? He’s like absolutely and then I told him about the whole debacle and he is like that’s some bs man. I also got blamed from the sway bar having a slit cut in it but I’m like there’s no way I did that either because I didn’t touch the sway bar and also the cut was fresh and not any surface rust or anything looks like it was just done today. But nope it’s my fault. That really made me angry especially because I’m being back flagged over it. They are going to take time for two ball joints and the sway bar. My bigger question was like well why didn’t you bring it back to me for if there was a concern about it and they couldn’t answer that question.
So a ball joint could go bad instantly right or especially over 900 something miles. Am I crazy for thinking that or what.
And then the Tacoma with the steering rack and power steering pump is back saying it’s leaking again I’m like great Toyota and their reman warranty crap we have to install is going to screw me again.
I’m just so over the drama and non sense like that. Hopefully it will pass but I guess it’s an all the time thing in this field. My one coworker who trained me I asked him and he’s like no a ball joint won’t go bad right away and that I should face the fact it was bad then I’m like that’s not the answer I expected from him but ok. I disagree with him on that for sure. But I can understand his frustration too as he is also getting back flagged because he makes money off of me. Not my fault though. I honestly think with all the problems everyone been having recently that we have someone tampering with cars on the lot but they refuse to listen to us when we ask them to look at the one or two cameras they actually have.
So I guess the main question I’d like to know from the wisdom of BITOG is can ball joints go bad instantly? I’m pretty dang sure they can. I’ve had them bad out of the box before even.
Back when I worked at Sears I always liked the listings where they wanted us to measure the play in a ball joint or tie rod before saying it was bad. Like, these shouldn't be moving at all, but I am just a drone.Moog claims play in CDJR ball joints is normal. I find it convenient for Moog 'cause they suck.
https://www.moogparts.com/technical...-ball-joints-for-movement-dodge-ram-jeep.html
No luck with Moog? That’s all I ever use or parts store stuff lol. This was on a 2013 Nissan Rogue but the ball joints were original. But I checked them in April and they weren’t bad then and the state inspector checked them too and not bad either.Moog claims play in CDJR ball joints is normal. I find it convenient for Moog 'cause they suck.
https://www.moogparts.com/technical...-ball-joints-for-movement-dodge-ram-jeep.html
If it was really 900 miles since your UCI and them discovering a problem, that isn't on you. If it was maybe 90 miles, ehhh maybe. But if that was driven anything like our shuttle is driven, that could absolutely happen.No luck with Moog? That’s all I ever use or parts store stuff lol. This was on a 2013 Nissan Rogue but the ball joints were original. But I checked them in April and they weren’t bad then and the state inspector checked them too and not bad either.
I think it's obnoxious because if you read that article seems to me you need a second person. I'm sure flat rate techs love that. Maybe you could use a pry bar underneath to lever the knuckle and still be in a place where you could read the DIBack when I worked at Sears I always liked the listings where they wanted us to measure the play in a ball joint or tie rod before saying it was bad. Like, these shouldn't be moving at all, but I am just a drone.
Really rough day today in the garage at work. Just typical non sense I guess. I done a used car end of April and they sold it 5 days ago but it’s had 900 miles put on it from being used as a lot shuttle and customer test drives and all of that. Well comes in with bad ball joints and I got my tail chewed because they are saying the ball joints were bad when I done the car in April because they are like it’s impossible for a ball joint to just go bad and if it does go bad it’s not going to be instant it’s going to be a few hundred miles that it goes bad over sometimes thousands of miles. So I got written up and am being back flagged over it. I went up to my coworker who is a very seasoned tech and I’m like hey so a ball joint can it go bad like right away because I mean you hit a pothole or something too hard and it can go bad or just go bad from getting weak right? He’s like absolutely and then I told him about the whole debacle and he is like that’s some bs man. I also got blamed from the sway bar having a slit cut in it but I’m like there’s no way I did that either because I didn’t touch the sway bar and also the cut was fresh and not any surface rust or anything looks like it was just done today. But nope it’s my fault. That really made me angry especially because I’m being back flagged over it. They are going to take time for two ball joints and the sway bar. My bigger question was like well why didn’t you bring it back to me for if there was a concern about it and they couldn’t answer that question.
So a ball joint could go bad instantly right or especially over 900 something miles. Am I crazy for thinking that or what.
And then the Tacoma with the steering rack and power steering pump is back saying it’s leaking again I’m like great Toyota and their reman warranty crap we have to install is going to screw me again.
I’m just so over the drama and non sense like that. Hopefully it will pass but I guess it’s an all the time thing in this field. My one coworker who trained me I asked him and he’s like no a ball joint won’t go bad right away and that I should face the fact it was bad then I’m like that’s not the answer I expected from him but ok. I disagree with him on that for sure. But I can understand his frustration too as he is also getting back flagged because he makes money off of me. Not my fault though. I honestly think with all the problems everyone been having recently that we have someone tampering with cars on the lot but they refuse to listen to us when we ask them to look at the one or two cameras they actually have.
So I guess the main question I’d like to know from the wisdom of BITOG is can ball joints go bad instantly? I’m pretty dang sure they can. I’ve had them bad out of the box before even.
Yeah I should have taken a picture but I was so mad it didn’t occur to me. It looks like someone replaced the sway bar end links and had to cut them off and cut into the sway bar with a cutting wheel. The ball joints were original from 2013 but didn’t show any signs of failure when I worked on it or the state inspector looked at it. Car has like 140ish thousand on it I think now.It would be unusual for a OE ball joint to go from no play to having noticeable play in 900 miles. Bad out of the box is a totally different scenario.
The sway bar thing is confusing, A slit cut? It's a steel bar.....