What a joke...

[chiks]

Should I post this in Off Topic or in Humor?

Quote:
Asiana Noodle Shop Owner Sandy Kong told ABC News that she usually only adds on 18 percent to a group of five or more and for customers that aren't good tippers.....and over at Splash at the Boathouse,They explained to us that they get pretty bad tips from people from Quebec and Europe, and that they had a policy to add gratuity to get what they needed


http://abcnews.go.com/Business/burlingto...67#.UDuRWaBibkU

 

[Quattro Pete]

Not sure about Quebec, but in a lot of places in Europe, leaving a 15-20% tip is unheard of. People usually just round up to the next even number, and if it happens to be just a dollar, it's normal.

If the restaurant expects an 18% tip no matter who you are and how good/bad the services is, they should just up their menu prices by 18% and be done with it. Uhh...

 

[Garak]

We Canucks can be pretty cheap tippers.

Back right after I graduated high school and delivered pizza, I always grabbed the deliveries that were destined for visiting Americans. They knew how to tip. It was the same driving cab.

 

[chiks]

The next thing they will charge for is Delivery Fee.
You heard right. Delivery fee. To deliver food from the kitchen to your table.

I was taught as a kid to leave 2c as tip if not satisfied with the service. Just to give your 2c to the waiter

 

[chiks]

Once I took an old aunt visiting us for the summer to an up scale dinner place. At the end, I left the tip in currency bills.

As we walked out, she came over to me and handed me the currency bills with the remark "You forgot these at the table"

LOL

 

[Rand]

well in the article it explains that in Europe a gratuity is usually added to the bill

and in quebec the wage is over 8$ vs 4$ in vermont


I feel I tip fairly well usually 2$/person for good service.
(on aprox 25-30$ bill)

Then again I dont tip extra if we order 2 8$ drinks vs 2 iced teas.

If the service was exceptional I usually leave abit more and tell the manager the service was good.

that being said I've left 0$ a couple times and told the manager why, but with several relatives who did that job for years I'm usually tolerant of minor issues..

As long as I dont get ignored for 20min etc. Or feel like I got the 1 drink limit as they never came around to refill it ever. etc...etc.

I also recognize if the waitress/waiter is standing there gabbing or texting for 15min.. or if they loaded her up with 8 tables or whatever.

 

[mpvue]

we hardly ever eat out anymore because of
1. how ridiculous prices have gotten,
2. how I don't trust any restaurants anymore (Bar Rescue and Restaurant: Impossible have done that to me)and
3. the moronic custom of tipping!

seriously, these people CHOSE to be wait staff; you HAVE to know going in that the base salary is terrible so don't complain. also, the whole system should be scrapped and they should be paid a normal salary!

 

[dparm]

Tipping is customary in the US, it isn't in Europe.

It's their business and they can do as they please, though if there's no sign warning of this in advance it could open up the door to trouble.

 

[Oldwolf]

The tips are built in to the price of your purchase in Europe. Also in Central America for that matter. Not sure about SA though.

 

[eljefino]

My grandpa could precisely compute a 16.6% tip and also make SURE the wait staff knew that he did the math EXCLUDING tax. So the tip was not a reflection on them but really his genius math skills.

He probably also partook in that classic jerk tradition of noticing a waiter not writing stuff down, then ordering an extremely intricate meal.

 

[mpvue]

Originally Posted By: eljefino
My grandpa could precisely compute a 16.6% tip and also make SURE the wait staff knew that he did the math EXCLUDING tax. So the tip was not a reflection on them but really his genius math skills.

He probably also partook in that classic jerk tradition of noticing a waiter not writing stuff down, then ordering an extremely intricate meal.

and there's always that real pro waiter that can remember ANYthing.
I knew a friend of my parents', when he went to a wedding, he didn't write out the gift check until AFTER the meal; his gift was a reflection on whether he had a good time or not.
he also wrote a 3 page letter to goodyear once when he wasn't happy with one of their repair shops...

 

[PW01]

"I feel I tip fairly well usually 2$/person for good service.
(on aprox 25-30$ bill)"
You don't tip fairley well. An average tip is %20 of the total bill, well above your $2 per person.

"seriously, these people CHOSE to be wait staff; you HAVE to know going in that the base salary is terrible so don't complain. also, the whole system should be scrapped and they should be paid a normal salary!"
You think it's expensive to go out to eat now? How much do you think a meal would cost if the restuarant owner had to pay the person who brought you your food $30,000 (plus benefits) annually?!

 

[morris]

i stopped going out with my wife (ex now) cause she would not tip at all. but my allowance was not enough for me to tip. did i say shes my ex?

 

[chiks]

your allowance? U still live with your parents?

 

[Pablo]

Of course the gov wants in on that action here in WA state:

If a restaurant has a mandatory tip, it must be taxed.

So:
cost of meal
tax on meal
mandatory tip
tax on tip!

 

[yonyon]

When "out of town" or more realistically out of the region, stop at a hotel and ask what is normal to tip a waiter. If that's too much trouble, get fast food. I you're concerned that a hotel worker may lead you to overtip, ask at a gas station instead. Problem solved.

 

[Shannow]

Originally Posted By: Pablo
Of course the gov wants in on that action here in WA state:

If a restaurant has a mandatory tip, it must be taxed.

So:
cost of meal
tax on meal
mandatory tip
tax on tip!


Given that a tip is "income", then why shouldn't it be taxed ?

Fortunately, it's not really part of the Oz culture (they tried making it so at one stage, it started to fly, then became "expected"...people still do leave extra, but not as a matter of course, but for exemplary service.

As an aside, we tipped pretty well when we were stateside, firstly, because everything was incredibly cheap, and the wait staff responded really well to please and thankyou, which they stated to our faces that they don't usually get off travelling Americans.

 

[Pablo]

Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Of course the gov wants in on that action here in WA state:

If a restaurant has a mandatory tip, it must be taxed.

So:
cost of meal
tax on meal
mandatory tip
tax on tip!


Given that a tip is "income", then why shouldn't it be taxed ?



Non mandatory tips aren't SALES taxed.

Tips are income and of course must be claimed on INCOME taxes, not SALES tax. But WA state does not have a PERSONAL income tax (high property, sales and business taxes), so it's not called double taxation. Long story with the libs in charge and life blood sucked from the jobs creators.....

 

[Shannow]

Fair comment, and I understand...

However, if the retailers were paying a living wage, then that would be included in the overall bill, rather than the bill plus gratuities.

It's why I favour the simple transaction tax.