Weird Oil Filter!!! or UFO...Unidentified Filtering Object!!

[turbochem]

My Sportage uses a Fram filter that looks weird! When you look on the inside, you cannot see within the internal chamber. Instead, there is a piece of metal with a plastic or rubber valve situated ~halfway within the canister. In other words, there seems to be no way to actually pour any oil into the filter before installing.

The oil filter is situated on TOP of the engine (~70 degree angle). Maybe it's a design to keep more oil in the filter?

It also looks like there is a dab of oil on the valve...I checked all the Frams...they all had the "oil". I touched the oil....yeah, it's oil....

Before you start to talk to be about the orange can of death....

I look for the SuperTech brand....it was HALF the size lengthwise (while having the same diameter) and did not incorperate this weird feature. It looked like a motorcycle oil filter!

I think the SuperTech part was just one of those consolidated filter numbers. Trying to get one filter to go across more applications. (BTW...had a similar situation with my Volvo. Fram made a nice and stubby filter made to easily spin-on my Volvo. The Supertech was longer...my knuckles never forgave me!!)

This is a new car...so I haven't checked the other filter companies yet.....

Here's the part number: PH5343 - OIL SPIN-ON
Principal Applications

1993 CHRYSLER, 1997-1992 FORD, 2002-1995 KIA, 1994-1991 MAZDA

So goto Wal Mart and see the freak of oil filtration for yourself.

 

[FowVay]

That filter isn't such a freak. What you're seeing is the bypass valve. There are many filter applications that look this way. If you're using the Fram brand then see if it is made in Canada. This isn't the conventional Fram design with the plastic by-pass valve so I suspect it is contracted from another supplier for a uncommon application (ie: metric base plate threads M20x1.5).

 

[jason07-1zzfe]

It's the ADBV

 

[labman]

"Before you start to talk to be about the orange can of death....

I look for the SuperTech brand....it was HALF the size lengthwise (while having the same diameter) and did not incorperate this weird feature. It looked like a motorcycle oil filter!

I think the SuperTech part was just one of those consolidated filter numbers. Trying to get one filter to go across more applications. (BTW...had a similar situation with my Volvo. Fram made a nice and stubby filter made to easily spin-on my Volvo. The Supertech was longer...my knuckles never forgave me!!)"

As I have posted here under other questions, Some Frams are big empty cans having 1/3 the area of the equivilent ACDelco. They may also have much less area than much smaller ones. I am saying the smaller ST may have more guts packed into a smaller can.

Area is not the only consideration. Area should lead to better flow and less bypassing, even near the change interval when filled with what we want rid of. After reading Bob's post today, under "Wait I have to get....", I wonder if we need to quit cutting up oil filters and look at wear data.

 

[turbochem]

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It's the ADBV

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I thought so, but I've never seen one halfway into the can. Plus, with most filters, you can see the center tube and the holes in them (thus, you can usaully see the filter media). However on this one the valve hides the center tube.....The center tube is sealed-off from the outside.....

 

[jason07-1zzfe]

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Originally posted by turbochem:

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It's the ADBV

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I thought so, but I've never seen one halfway into the can. Plus, with most filters, you can see the center tube and the holes in them (thus, you can usaully see the filter media). However on this one the valve hides the center tube.....The center tube is sealed-off from the outside.....

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Yep that's how my filter is. A light spring forces the rubber seal inward against an orifice. When the oil pump pushes the oil through the filter and out the ID, it easily overcomes the spring and flows through. If flow stops and tries to reverse the spring seals that hole.

 

[msparks]

My BMW cycle oil filter is the same way. I believe its the ADBV.