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Whale-Mart is always looking for dynamic duos like Tiny ("security") and Fragile ("greeter"). Turn your disadvantage, be it your physical appearance or old age, into an occupation opportunity!
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Depends on the state. I don't think IL set a limit on hours, it was simply a dollar figure.

So if I got $400/wk in benefits, the least I could earn would be $400/wk. The UC benefit would only go to zero had I earned $800/wk.

It's been a long time, but that's how I recall it worked in the early 90's here in IL.

Taxes are due on UC, even though they are not withheld, so I can see where take home might be reduced by working, if you had a high tax rate. But actual earnings were always greater if you worked while taking UC.
 
I just wish the Government would take over Wally's so the workers there could get a nice government job with early retirement and great benefits.

I'm sure the government could do a much better job of running Wally's than its current management.

This is something for which every patriotic American should wish.
 
Well, wherever a Wally's opens, social services go up in cost.

The auto-industry was a privately held jobs program that allowed lots of bills to be paid.

Walmart is a privately held jobs program that costs a lot of money to administer.
 
Originally Posted By: GROUCHO MARX
I just wish the Government would take over Wally's so the workers there could get a nice government job with early retirement and great benefits.

I'm sure the government could do a much better job of running Wally's than its current management.

This is something for which every patriotic American should wish.
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I remember watching something or reading something. where people were saying the walmart executives should run the government.
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If you are well educated, then no, you probably won't want to work there. But if you have little skills or education then this type of job is where you work. You want better? EARN IT.


U-A-W
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Well, wherever a Wally's opens, social services go up in cost.

Based on what?


Google it. If I link it you'll just dismiss the sources.


(the "got a link" dodge)
 
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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
the smart investor buys into panic and negative conditions from cash held on the side as the bubble burst.

Wal mart was sitting on cash, and has an opportunity to position itself for the next cycle by expanding and killing off more of its competition. Just because they are hiring and expanding doesn't mean that they arent providing poor wages and lousy benefits...

They are merely taking advantage of the situation. When things come back up, the folks working there will not be better off, or have an opportunity to truly, directly profit from the situation... but the high-ups at wal-mart will. All those hired by WM are just screwed.

Yeah, it's much better to have them sit at home and collect unemployment...


Point is, mom and pop shop pays themself, a few others... maybe not much better than minimum wage, but they are involved in the local economy, from the rent they pay for their storefront, to the people the employ to the taxes they pay.

In a recession, they may not be doing great, but they may be afloat... until Wal-mart comes in.

So here is Wal-mart, doing great things... creating jobs, hiring 300 people at minimum or near minimum wage. The small shops, already hurt, cannot compete in any way, and close up. 400 net jobs are lost, besides the rent payments and whatnot else... perhaps mom and pop shoose to retire, becoming government recipients instead of paying into the system.

But wal-mart is growing and creating marginal jobs...

well, yahoo. the benefit? swome cost efficiency of widgets... the winners? maybe two store managers and the high ups at corporate. The loosers? All of the local folks who were displaced by wal-mart from their move into town.

And thus, real social costs go up, net jobs are decreased, and net imports from China keep rising.

And then someday China calls us on our debt incurred due to social programs, with thei rising costs in part created by wal-mart, and then the Chinese can nationalize whatever they desire... that will make lots of folks real happy... Im sure.

But it has to come around somehow...
 
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So here is Wal-mart, doing great things... creating jobs, hiring 300 people at minimum or near minimum wage. The small shops, already hurt, cannot compete in any way, and close up. 400 net jobs are lost, besides the rent payments and whatnot else... perhaps mom and pop shoose to retire, becoming government recipients instead of paying into the system.

Do you have any evidence this is happening?
 
Originally Posted By: JHZR2

Point is, mom and pop shop pays themself, a few others... maybe not much better than minimum wage, but they are involved in the local economy, from the rent they pay for their storefront, to the people the employ to the taxes they pay.

In a recession, they may not be doing great, but they may be afloat... until Wal-mart comes in.

So here is Wal-mart, doing great things... creating jobs, hiring 300 people at minimum or near minimum wage. The small shops, already hurt, cannot compete in any way, and close up. 400 net jobs are lost, besides the rent payments and whatnot else... perhaps mom and pop shoose to retire, becoming government recipients instead of paying into the system.

But wal-mart is growing and creating marginal jobs...

well, yahoo. the benefit? swome cost efficiency of widgets... the winners? maybe two store managers and the high ups at corporate. The loosers? All of the local folks who were displaced by wal-mart from their move into town.

And thus, real social costs go up, net jobs are decreased, and net imports from China keep rising.

And then someday China calls us on our debt incurred due to social programs, with thei rising costs in part created by wal-mart, and then the Chinese can nationalize whatever they desire... that will make lots of folks real happy... Im sure.

But it has to come around somehow...


You can look at it that way, or you can look at how our economy really scale up to a "bigger is better" model. I don't see Walmart being any different than Target, Safeway/Albertson/Kroger, Bestbuy, Costco, or any other box stores chain that runs on a large scale and reduce cost and overhead in the mom and pop stores.

Without Walmart, these mom and pop will still go out of businesses if they stay the old fashion way of doing businesses. What Walmart did was using the minimum wage earner to compete with someone that can do the same job more expensively. Will these Walmart workers just stay in unemployment and receive social services on tax payers' dime? or will they be more efficient and make a higher wage if Walmart does not exist? I don't think the mom and pop being displaced are the same people that works for Walmart.

Simply put, there is no way you can displace Walmart. Someone else would have taken its place to drive the mom and pop out of businesses. It is a fact of life, and IMO these mom and pop are better equiped at finding other works (i.e. specialty Internet sales, working for a bigger company, etc) than the people that work minimum wages at Walmart (as they would have been unemployed if the technologies aren't there to make their work more useful). The society as a whole gain more, just that some individual (like the mom and pop here) are no longer able to get rich sitting in a store 12 hours a day as the good old days.

There are still liquor stores and 7-11 around the corners, as well as McDonald's and Subways. If the mom and pop insist, they can still join a fast food franchise, but they probably have to work much harder than before.
 
I don't know why Gary dismisses my idea of a government takeover of Wally's.

BTW my local Wally's offers Family health benefits for $500 a month to the employees (Full Time). I've asked them if they buy it, they've told me it's too expensive and the deductible of $300 is ludicrous.

They say they go to the local county clinic for "free" healthcare and apparently have no problem with it. I'm sure they have never had to pay for healthcare and are not about to start.
 
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I think we view it in a different light ..but I surely believe you
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Oh ..yeah, you can spend over 25% of your pathetic miserable low life status paycheck on health care that you can't afford to use anyway.

Don't say we didn't offer you anything.

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I worked with people over the years that worked for the benefits and not the paycheck. Everybody gets to make their own decisions.

Of course, if the government took over Wally's, all taxpayers would get more value.
 
Originally Posted By: GROUCHO MARX

BTW my local Wally's offers Family health benefits for $500 a month to the employees (Full Time). I've asked them if they buy it, they've told me it's too expensive and the deductible of $300 is ludicrous.


Aaah, so the competitiveness from wally's is really the fact that they charge high rates for health insurance, and force lower quality goods to the population.

Well, that's a win-win if Ive ever seen one...

But they create some jobs
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