VW Recall - Springs could break.

[atikovi]

Had a spring break in the front strut of a Smart car while driving it. Sounded like somebody smashed a glass window, a loud explosion. No idea what happened but it still drove fine. Only noticed when I got home and one side was an inch lower than the other.

 

[Lolvoguy]

Originally Posted by WyrTwister

I have been driving for over 50 years . Thankfully , never had a spring break .

That's because you don't live in the rust belt. I've had springs break on my 97 Escort, and my 86 325es. Strangely enough, the springs on the 325is are original and still not broken. I attribute it to no/very little winter driving.

 

[Andrew1972]

Par for the course withVW. I belive my wife's 18 Tiguan has had 5 recalls including this one. Another one related to the shocks.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Originally Posted by OVERKILL

Originally Posted by WyrTwister

I have been driving for over 50 years . Thankfully , never had a spring break . Recently watched a youtube South Main Auto video on a broken middle leaf spring on a Chevy or GMC pickup . Do not know if the salt on the roads in New York makes it any more likely for that to happen ?

The fox body Mustangs were notorious in the rust belt for the front springs to break off near the bottom. Often the owner wouldn't even notice.

My Vic had a broken front spring...there was no indication of the fact while driving it.

 

[Trav]

Originally Posted by rooflessVW

Springs break, it happens. The E83 X3 is fairly notorious for it.

In the salt belt its a common occurrence, I see it Subaru, Honda (both makes front), Ford, VW (mostly rears), BMW, etc. MB, GM, Nissan and Toyota not so much, not stats just what I have seen. GM tends to sag more than others, not break.

 

[Lolvoguy]

Originally Posted by Jarlaxle

Originally Posted by OVERKILL

Originally Posted by WyrTwister

I have been driving for over 50 years . Thankfully , never had a spring break . Recently watched a youtube South Main Auto video on a broken middle leaf spring on a Chevy or GMC pickup . Do not know if the salt on the roads in New York makes it any more likely for that to happen ?

The fox body Mustangs were notorious in the rust belt for the front springs to break off near the bottom. Often the owner wouldn't even notice.

My Vic had a broken front spring...there was no indication of the fact while driving it.

On my Escort the rear springs would snap the bottom section off. Also no real way to tell, except the rear of the car sagged just a little more than usual. Felt really weird driving with new springs!

 

[edwardh1]

would you prefer to fly on an aircraft maintained in Germany or a 3 rd world nation?

 

[JOD]

Originally Posted by edwardh1

would you prefer to fly on an aircraft maintained in Germany or a 3 rd world nation?

Your German-made plane is going to have quite a few (and and increasing number) of parts made in China, India, and--yes--Mexico. Really, it's time to move on from COO. It's not 1950. You can argue about the geopolitical implications about it all you want (though on on this forum!), but the fact is, this is the world in which we live. COO had nothing to do with that coil spring failure.

 

[philipp10]

Originally Posted by Gimpy1

W. T. F does making car in Mexico have to do with recalls. VW coil springs are NOT made in Mexico but rather they are made by a third party supplier so the coo is not Mexico. The Puebla plant is an assembly plant that sources parts from many different countries So maybe you should check the facts before saying something asinine like that. The same thing happens in "murica". Aren't KIA's made in the states, aren't they currently experiencing a huge engine recall. Same for the Toyota debacle for acceleration. Lets not forget the GM ignition switch recall that was a 30 MILLION unit recall and was responsible for more than 100 deaths. EVERY vehicle manufacturer has recalls regardless of where they are built. Posting statements like you just did is simply ignorant and arrogant.

American and arrogant go together like America and Apple Pie.....

 

[philipp10]

Originally Posted by edwardh1

would you prefer to fly on an aircraft maintained in Germany or a 3 rd world nation?

reminds me of a couple weeks back....so many were quick to blame Lion Air and then Ethiopian Air....blamed lack of pilot training. Then we find out the 737 Max was designed inherently unstable, it wants to nose up and what does Boeing (a preeminent American company) do? They provide a lame software fix....Arrogance at it's best.

 

[DuckRyder]

Page 3Part 573 Safety Recall Report 19V-188 The information contained in this report was submitted pursuant to 49 CFR §573 Supplier Identification : Component Manufacturer Name : Thyssenkrupp Components Technology https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2019/RCLRPT-19V188-8318.PDF

 

[Lubener]

Originally Posted by StevieC

I had a front spring break on my Ford Tempo.

I have had many break on several t birds and cougars years ago. A big problem with fords back then.

 

[Kestas]

My 2001 Sable had a recall on spring fracture, identified as a problem for northern cars. They didn't replace the springs; they installed shrouds so fracture wouldn't puncture the tire. Thanks for nothing!

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted by philipp10

Originally Posted by edwardh1

would you prefer to fly on an aircraft maintained in Germany or a 3 rd world nation?

reminds me of a couple weeks back....so many were quick to blame Lion Air and then Ethiopian Air....blamed lack of pilot training. Then we find out the 737 Max was designed inherently unstable, it wants to nose up and what does Boeing (a preeminent American company) do? They provide a lame software fix....Arrogance at it's best.

Deregulation at its work. Saw good title this morning: When absolute capitalism works: When you are on the board of Boeing or onboard of Boeing?

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted by DuckRyder

Page 3Part 573 Safety Recall Report 19V-188 The information contained in this report was submitted pursuant to 49 CFR §573 Supplier Identification : Component Manufacturer Name : Thyssenkrupp Components Technology https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2019/RCLRPT-19V188-8318.PDF

Steel mill in Mobil, AL.

 

[Spector]

Atlas and Jettas I believe are assembled here in Chattanogoa, Tiquan is assembled in Mexico and has not gotten great reviews, Japanese transmission coupled with an underpowered engine. As to Mexico, sorry, but I try to avoid Mexico like I try to avoid made in China. Am I biased, yep.

 

[UberArchetype]

Originally Posted by edyvw

Steel mill in Mobil, AL.

What were they arguing abut? Guilt by association - one of the more popular versions of the Ad-Hominem fallacies, used by everyone, everywhere, all the time!

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted by UberArchetype

Originally Posted by edyvw

Steel mill in Mobil, AL.

What were they arguing abut? Guilt by association - one of the more popular versions of the Ad-Hominem fallacies, used by everyone, everywhere, all the time!

Point is, steel could be from one of numerous TK mills around the world.

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted by Spector

Atlas and Jettas I believe are assembled here in Chattanogoa, Tiquan is assembled in Mexico and has not gotten great reviews, Japanese transmission coupled with an underpowered engine. As to Mexico, sorry, but I try to avoid Mexico like I try to avoid made in China. Am I biased, yep.

Same transmission is in Atlas, and Atlas has also not only underpowered engine (that is why I did not get it) but actually very old engine that is built in Hungary. Atlas: Engine: Hungary. Transmission: Japan. (Most other components from Europe). Assembled in TN Tiguan: Engine: Hungary. Transmission: Japan. (Most other components from Europe). Assembled in Mexico. Now, Atlas came with some serious brake issues that are still being resolved. Not to mention that both cars are built on the same platform, same like Golf, Polo, all Skoda's, SEAT's. And TK probably supplies springs for all those too.

 

[DuckRyder]

The address given for the supplier is Mexico in the linked document. And I'm not saying that is the problem, it is my understanding that a job at the VW plant in Puebla is a real good job to have in the area and consequently folks do a good job. It seems as if there are two recalls and two issues, incorrect material and incorrect process and that the VIN are non sequential.