What filter do you recommend for a VW Jetta Trek 1997 4 cylinder. My soon to be wife had it serviced at jiffy lube. Thanks.
VW OEM oil filters or aftermarket
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Get a bunch of proper Mann filters from an online source like germanautoparts.com. OEM quality filters at half the price.
Is the Trek bike still working?
Is the Trek bike still working?
If only VW's were as reliable as Trek bikes.........
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Well, why do you think that VW came with a spare bike?
The bike still runs i just hope the car will last just as long
Serviced at Jiffy Lube ??
With their QC problems, its a wonder any car survives !
I have used Purolator in my old VWs and VW Diesels - no problems..
And if a VW were built as well as a Trek bike, it would cost $50,000....
With their QC problems, its a wonder any car survives !
I have used Purolator in my old VWs and VW Diesels - no problems..
And if a VW were built as well as a Trek bike, it would cost $50,000....
I have a 2005 Beetle with the 2L gasser. The Dealer sells me VW filters (with real German on it) for $5.77 each. There's no reason not to use these, especially while under warranty. I'd check your local Dealer.
First thing to do would be to ditch Jiffy Lube. If you must have someone change the oil for you, take it to a VW dealer or a local mechanic.
You can use the VW filter-it's very high quality. I have been using a Purolator Premium Plus on my wife's 04 VW Jetta, but will be switching to a OEM VW filter at my next oil change.
You can use the VW filter-it's very high quality. I have been using a Purolator Premium Plus on my wife's 04 VW Jetta, but will be switching to a OEM VW filter at my next oil change.
Craig,
You need to use OEM VW or Mann (a supplier for OEM Audi/VW ) oil filters with the 1.8t engine. Audi/VW uses high volume/pressure oil pumps in their engines and the Mann and Audi/VW filters are designed for this. They have a higher pressure bypass value to handle the added pressure. In addition my understanding is the filter media is designed to handle the higher flow rate with out collapsing.
Also Audi/VW has a TSB regarding oil filters for the 1.8t engine. It calls for a revised larger filter that increases the oil capacity by .5 qts. It's a monster size filter.
See http://www.blauparts.com/tuneup/Oil_Filters_Oil_Filter_Audi_VW.htm
Also www.ecstuning.com has the proper filters as well.
You need to use OEM VW or Mann (a supplier for OEM Audi/VW ) oil filters with the 1.8t engine. Audi/VW uses high volume/pressure oil pumps in their engines and the Mann and Audi/VW filters are designed for this. They have a higher pressure bypass value to handle the added pressure. In addition my understanding is the filter media is designed to handle the higher flow rate with out collapsing.
Also Audi/VW has a TSB regarding oil filters for the 1.8t engine. It calls for a revised larger filter that increases the oil capacity by .5 qts. It's a monster size filter.
See http://www.blauparts.com/tuneup/Oil_Filters_Oil_Filter_Audi_VW.htm
Also www.ecstuning.com has the proper filters as well.
There's no magic to the 1997 Jetta 4 cylinder. Mann filters are fine, but so are several others.
On my parts shelf I have two Mobil 1 M1-205 and one Purolator Pure One PL 20252 left over from my own VW which had well over 165,000 miles on it when I replaced it. I'd consider any of the Champion-made filters (Mobil 1, K&N, and several less expensive), the Purolators, the WIX, and some less known brands. The bypass on these is around 11-16 psi.
There is a thread compatible higher pressure filter available for it made for some of the high-performance VW 4 cylinders, but it really offers no advantage in normal use.
One substitution is the diesel engine filter which (WIX 51342 and equivalents) which is longer and fatter than the gasoline engine filter.
The diesels originally used the same filter as the gasoline engines, but soot buildup in the oil caused some nasty failures. The larger filter provides some extra capacity and uses the same mounting gasket and threads, so it will normally fit the gasoline engine.
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On my parts shelf I have two Mobil 1 M1-205 and one Purolator Pure One PL 20252 left over from my own VW which had well over 165,000 miles on it when I replaced it. I'd consider any of the Champion-made filters (Mobil 1, K&N, and several less expensive), the Purolators, the WIX, and some less known brands. The bypass on these is around 11-16 psi.
There is a thread compatible higher pressure filter available for it made for some of the high-performance VW 4 cylinders, but it really offers no advantage in normal use.
One substitution is the diesel engine filter which (WIX 51342 and equivalents) which is longer and fatter than the gasoline engine filter.
The diesels originally used the same filter as the gasoline engines, but soot buildup in the oil caused some nasty failures. The larger filter provides some extra capacity and uses the same mounting gasket and threads, so it will normally fit the gasoline engine.
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BTW: The bypass value pressure on the Mann filter for the 1.8t engine is 2.5 bar (36.25 psi).
I recently used a Mobil 1 M1-301 oversized filter on my '00 GTI 1.8T. That filter only has a 8-11 psid bypass valve. Did it stay in bypass mode for the 6k miles that I used it?
Here's a pic of that filter on my GTI:
Here's a pic of that filter on my GTI:
Dunno but I bet it was close. Look at the pressure drop on the M1 filter on this flow test.
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=000513;p=1
The camera angle is off on the out gauge but if I give it the benefit of doubt it looks like there's a 6 psi maybe 8 psi drop. Of course in this test the oil wasn't a full operating temp but you should get the idea. Not a lot of margin there.
One Purolator filter you can use if you have room for the extra length is the L40316. It is a MANN W 940/25. It's $8 and change at my local Pep Boys and Advance Auto's web site shows it at $7 and change.
Check this puppy out:
http://forums.audiworld.com/a4/msgs/2264832.phtml
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=000513;p=1
The camera angle is off on the out gauge but if I give it the benefit of doubt it looks like there's a 6 psi maybe 8 psi drop. Of course in this test the oil wasn't a full operating temp but you should get the idea. Not a lot of margin there.
One Purolator filter you can use if you have room for the extra length is the L40316. It is a MANN W 940/25. It's $8 and change at my local Pep Boys and Advance Auto's web site shows it at $7 and change.
Check this puppy out:
http://forums.audiworld.com/a4/msgs/2264832.phtml
"Did it stay in bypass mode for the 6k miles that I used it?"
It depends on how you drove it.
All oil filters bypass part of the time. The percentage of time they bypass is a function of the engine and how it's driven.
Generally filters aimed at cars driven aggressively (like the various high-performance versions of the VW 4 cylinder) use higher bypass settings than their more mundane applications.
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It depends on how you drove it.
All oil filters bypass part of the time. The percentage of time they bypass is a function of the engine and how it's driven.
Generally filters aimed at cars driven aggressively (like the various high-performance versions of the VW 4 cylinder) use higher bypass settings than their more mundane applications.
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Ok I'll bite and am curious as well. How does unfiltered oil result in "less wear" particularly at the end of an OCI?
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