VW filter on Nissan?

[Yuk]

Can I safely put my VW (Passat 1.8L turbo) oil filters on my Nissan Sentra?

Here's what Wix says the specs are:

Application: Passat
Part Number: 51088
UPC Number: 765809510883
Style: Spin-On Lube
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 4.704
Outer Diameter Top: 2.983
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 30
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes

Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.740 2.370 0.275


Application: Sentra (1992 w/E16i)
Part Number: 51361
UPC Number: 765809513617
Style: Spin-On Lube
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 4.067
Outer Diameter Top: 2.960
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes

Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.475 2.173 0.233

 

[Bill Kapaun]

The mis-match in gasket diameters would keep me from doing it.
The 30 PSI bypass is "probably" more than the internal engine bypass valve, and probably wouldn't have an effect.
I'd look for a better alternative.

 

[Ken2]

Aren't GM engines the only one with an internal oil filter bypass valve? Most other makes use the bypass valve in the filter. The filter bypass is just measuring the differential pressure, the difference in pressure between the oil entering the filter and the oil leaving the filter.

Why not use the standard filter for that engine. The oversized filter craze is just hokum.


Ken

 

[Yuk]

Ken,

My reasons for using the VW filter have nothing to do with oversize.

Reasons:

1. The VW filter (Mann+Hummel) has the highest build quality of any of the commonly available (in my area) oil filters.

2. When I buy in bulk (6 or more) the Mann+Hummel filters are the least expensive, quality filter I can buy.

3. Since I'm buying the filters already for my VW it saves me the hassle and expense of buying and stocking a second, lesser filter.


How do I determine if the “mis-match in gasket diameters” are too great to make this VW filter an option?

Thanks

 

[Bill Kapaun]

quote:

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Originally posted by Yuk:
Ken,

My reasons for using the VW filter have nothing to do with oversize.


....How do I determine if the “mis-match in gasket diameters” are too great to make this VW filter an option?

Thanks

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You would have to measure the gasket surface width on the Nissan mount and see if it's "generous" enough. It MIGHT be.
It's your call!

 

[unDummy]

My 1.6 has plenty of mount area for oversized filters. I've used the ph2870a/ph3600 without any problems in place of the ph3682. You can check Wix for their version of the above numbers.

I say go for it and now inventory just ONE filter for both cars.

The bypass pressure valve is not an issue.

The easiest way to check ANY vehicle for gasket issues is to remove the gasket from an old filter and stick it up to the filter mount. As long as there is no-minimal overhang, it won't make the "whoopie cushion sound" as a gallon of oil squirts past it.

I know that the PH8a will make the above noise on some small filter mounts.

 

[427Z06]

You might try pulling the gasket off a used VW filter and try matching it up to the Nissan mounting surface when it's filter is off. Also look closely to see if the Nissan mounting surface is flat and doesn't have a small ledge for the correct size gasket to seat on. You have a difference of .265" in gasket sizes which is large enough for you to be extremely cautious with this experiment.

 

[Yuk]

unDummy ,

Is your 1.6 the same as mine (E16i)? How many miles have you put on the PH2870A on your 1.6? The PH2870A is the cross reference match for the Mann + Hummel 06A 115 561B found on my Passat.

When I distill the Reponses received, so far, I come the conclusion that, as long as the gasket fits/seals, the Mann filter is a good alternative on the Nissan. Am I distilling correctly?

 

[FL-400S]

quote:

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Originally posted by unDummy:
My 1.6 has plenty of mount area for oversized filters. I've used the ph2870a/ph3600 without any problems in place of the ph3682. You can check Wix for their version of the above numbers.

I say go for it and now inventory just ONE filter for both cars.

The bypass pressure valve is not an issue.

The easiest way to check ANY vehicle for gasket issues is to remove the gasket from an old filter and stick it up to the filter mount. As long as there is no-minimal overhang, it won't make the "whoopie cushion sound" as a gallon of oil squirts past it.

I know that the PH8a will make the above noise on some small filter mounts.

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If a PH3600 fits, that means you can run a Ford Motorcraft FL-400S. I will start running this filter on two of my vehicles on the next oil change. The ford filter is pretty much a Purolator Pure 1 ($6) in a ford can for $2.77 at walmart. The ultimate poor-man filter if you can fit it on your sled.

 

[unDummy]

I have about 50k miles of about 220k miles on a '94. I've also run the oversized option on 2.4 and 3.0 Nissans with no problems.

The Motorcraft filter is probably the best band for the money.
This size fits most toyotas, fords, nissans(and now VW)....that I work on.