VW 504 5w30 ok to replace 0w30 ?

[315431 Panda]

Hi guys , i have quite a few VAG cars in the extended family that require 5w30 504 spec oils so i have a decent stash on hand of mobil 1 esp 5w30 . I recently took delivery of a 2023 Tiguan R ( ea888 evo4 high output ) with the same engine as the mk8 R . Is it ok to use the M1 esp 5w30 or should i go and find a suitable 0w30 504 spec ? The sticker in the engine bay say it was filled with 0w30 , must i stick with 0w30 or will 504 spec in a different viscosity be fine in regards to keeping the engine happy and warranty as long as its 504 ?

 

[dbias]

5w30 will be fine. 504 is what to look for

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Hi guys , i have quite a few VAG cars in the extended family that require 5w30 504 spec oils so i have a decent stash on hand of mobil 1 esp 5w30 . I recently took delivery of a 2023 Tiguan R ( ea888 evo4 high output ) with the same engine as the mk8 R . Is it ok to use the M1 esp 5w30 or should i go and find a suitable 0w30 504 spec ? The sticker in the engine bay say it was filled with 0w30 , must i stick with 0w30 or will 504 spec in a different viscosity be fine in regards to keeping the engine happy and warranty as long as its 504 ?

All 504 oils will be xW-30. Whether it's 0w30 or 5w30 is irrelevant.

 

[TiGeo]

504 is 504. Wish VW would leave grade off the stickers.

 

[kschachn]

All 504 oils will be xW-30. Whether it's 0w30 or 5w30 is irrelevant.

Especially in Australia unless it's getting below -30 or so.

 

[kschachn]

504 is 504. Wish VW would leave grade off the stickers.

Agreed. Some Mercedes-Benz approvals no longer list acceptable grades but that's an exception. It's pretty meaningless with a minimum HT/HS.

 

[TiGeo]

Agreed. Some Mercedes-Benz approvals no longer list acceptable grades but that's an exception. It's pretty meaningless with a minimum HT/HS.

I believe my Atlas has a sticker under the hood staying 0W30 AND 502 or 504....I'll check when my wife gets home this afternoon.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

As long as it's 504, that's what counts.

 

[TiGeo]

Agreed. Some Mercedes-Benz approvals no longer list acceptable grades but that's an exception. It's pretty meaningless with a minimum HT/HS.

It should be like some manuals I used to see....504 then a grade chart showing temps so colder you want the 0W30 and hotter the 5W30 (for 504) etc.

 

[weasley]

Over time specs drift. When 504.00 was launched it was 5W-30 only, then 0W-30 was added later. Any car sold in the early days will ask for 5W-30 but should be OK to also take 0W-30.

 

[Zee09]

I believe my Atlas has a sticker under the hood staying 0W30 AND 502 or 504....I'll check when my wife gets home this afternoon.

I just get my oil from here. I don't sweat the details. You should try it out too....

https://www.fcpeuro.com/

 

[dbias]

I believe my Atlas has a sticker under the hood staying 0W30 AND 502 or 504....I'll check when my wife gets home this afternoon.

My 2020 Atlas Cross Sport sticker said 0w-30 VW 504

 

[TiGeo]

My 2020 Atlas Cross Sport sticker said 0w-30 VW 504

2018 is the different one b/c it still shows 502. I'll grab a pic later. 2019+ changed to 0W30 and 504.

 

[TiGeo]

I just get my oil from here. I don't sweat the details. You should try it out too....

https://www.fcpeuro.com/

They know me by name.

 

[shortyb]

Stick with the ESP 5W-30 since you already have it. Plus, it has slighly lower NOACK than the ESP 0W-30 .

 

[tbm5690]

Stick with the ESP 5W-30 since you already have it. Plus, it has slighly lower NOACK than the ESP 0W-30 .

Am I correct that the 5W only comes in single quart containers? Unless I'm missing it this is a reason why I'm running the 0W since I can grab a 5 qt for ~$37 or so.

 

[kschachn]

Am I correct that the 5W only comes in single quart containers? Unless I'm missing it this is a reason why I'm running the 0W since I can grab a 5 qt for ~$37 or so.

Autozone and Advance Auto sell Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30, if you can get it with an oil filter special that makes it a bit cheaper. Here it sells for the same $37. I have not seen the 0W-30 in a five-quart container.

An alternative is Pennzoil Platinum Euro L at Walmart for $26.50, although it does not have VW 504 00 approval it does have BMW Longlife-04 which is similar (and Mercedes-Benz 229.51). I've been using it in my Tiguan for a while now.

 

[TiGeo]

If in the U.S.:

Liquimoly Special Tech 5W30 kit(s) from FCP Euro and going forward you can get them for free with return. Delivered to your house.

Edit. Opps...you are in Oz. Not sure what is what there.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/vw-oil-change-kit-5w30-liqui-moly-kit-00452

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

They know me by name.

They throttle you back on the returns?

 

[TiGeo]

They throttle you back on the returns?

No. I follow their policy so no drama.