Volvo OEM Oil Filter- A Look Inside

[Need2know]

Here are the pictures of a Volvo OEM filter I cut open. This was used on a 1994 960 wagon, was run 10,000 miles, which is the recommended interval. Oil used was Mobil 10-30, which was changed by the Volvo dealer, every 10,000 miles or in some cases sooner. Car now has 193,000 miles and uses less than a quart between changes. This is not the first one of these I have cut open, but it is the first one that has a failed element.
The pictures:
See the pictures here

 

[Jonny Z]

Probably has a lot to do with the uneven plea spacing, eh?

 

[Gary Allan]

 

[Winston]

He's new, he must have faked the photos. Or he works for Fram.

 

[surfstar]

maybe 10k is just too many miles for filter reliability. a 5k change of filter might be the best way to sleep at night.

 

[tdi-rick]

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maybe 10k is just too many miles for filter reliability. a 5k change of filter might be the best way to sleep at night.

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So what do you make of Land Rover's recommendation for the 36,000 mile change interval for the full flow filter in their TD5 diesel ?

 

[Pablo]

The OEM is Mann.

Yours looks somewhat like a Mann, but I honestly don't remember the ADBV's being that color. Parker -as in Parker Hannifin or ?? Unfortunately I don't have any true Mann's sitting around. (I'm using a Napa Gold on the 855 and dual FL-1A's on the 245T.

I am wondering if post Ford Volvo is starting to use new sources, etc...

 

[Need2know]

Thanks to all for their responses so far. I am most curious about the logo on the anti-drainback valve. Yes, that is the Parker Hannifin logo. I have some Parker spin on hydraulic filters on a tractor- this made me wonder if the make complete filters for OEM use. They have a filter division in the UK. But, since they also make all sorts of sealing devices, it could very well be they just make the rubber valve component. Until this last oil change, we always used the OEM filter, but favorable reports on this board led me to try a Wix for the most recent oil change. As surfstar pointed out, 5000 miles seems a safer OCI, based on what we see here. I have several other older filters waiting to get cut open- will report on the results soon!

 

[lubeowner]

I have cut open several Volvo OEM filters and they looked identical to the ones posted. the all used this skin colored ADBV made by parker.

The media splits look exactly like the ones I find in the Champ filters though.

 

[motorguy222]

Since Volvo is owned by Ford,this may be a Champ made filter.

The filters that come on factory Fords are made by Champ.

Considering this,the filter may be a Champ.

I dont know that I would feel comfortable going 10K on a filter,regardless of who made it.

 

[brianl703]

Champ makes filters in Germany?

 

[wavinwayne]

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Originally posted by motorguy222:
Since Volvo is owned by Ford,this may be a Champ made filter....

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Since the Volvo filter is made in Germany, wouldn't it make more sense that it might be made by Mann/Hummel or Mahle/Knecht?

 

[labman]

Did some of the 10K go back to nasty, cold weather? Even with a nice warm garage, You still have to the start the car to get back to it. I would expect Volvo to spec an oil, filter, and interval to survive frigid weather. Have you taken the parts to show the dealer?

Never saw a Champ with that style bypass.

 

[motorguy222]

Champ has a plant in Germany.

http://www.crmadvocate.com/casestudy/jdedwards/Prof_Champn_301.pdf

 

[tdi-rick]

Interesting colour of that Parker ADBV.

According to my old Parker 'O' rings catalogue, as well as basic black in all the elastomers they use, they were also available in specific colours for each material, eg.

Ethylene Propylene = Purple
Flurosilicone = Blue
Neoprene = Red
Niitrile = Black
Silicone = Rust
Flurocarbon = Brown

The closest I can match the colour of that ADBV to the colour swatch in the catalogue is sort of between brown and rust. (flurocarbon and silicone)
Here's what they say about Flurocarbon as a material:

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Flurocarbon elastomers were first introduced in the mid 1950'2. Since then they have grown to a major importance in the seal industry. Due to wide spectrum chemical compatibility and temperature range, flurocarbon rubber is the most significant single elastomer development in recent history.
Its working temperature range is considered to be from -20* to 400*F, but will take temperatures up to 600*F for short periods of time. It has been known to seal at -65*F in some static applications. Newer developments have tremendously improved the compression set charcteristics of this very useful material.
Compounds maade from flurocarbon elastomers should be considerd for use in aircraft, automotive and other mechanical devices requiring maximum resistance to deterioraton by test and functional fluids.

Flurocarbon is recommended for:
Petroleum oils
D-Ester base lubricants
Silicon fluids and greases
Selected phosphate ester fluids
Halogenated hydrocarbons
Acids

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In the descriptions of Silicone

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Silicone As a group, the silicones have poor tensile strength, tear resistance and abrasion resistance........Silicone..compounds have been made with exceptional heat and compression set resistance......their strength does not compare to conventional rubber.......posses excellent resistance to temperature extremes.....The maximum temperature at which silicones are recommended for continuous service is 450*F in dry air. Silicones retention of properties at these temperatures is superior to other elastic materials.

Silicone is recommended for:
High Aniline point oils
Dry heat
Chlorinated di-phenyls.

Flurosilicone, combines the good high and low temperature properties of silicone with basic fuel and oil resistance.........The high temperature limit is more conservative because temperatures approaching 350*F may degrade the fluid, producing acids which attack flurosilicone elastomers.

Flurosilicone is recommended for:
Petroleum oils and fuels.

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[Volvohead]

That's a Mann. Volvo is very particular about their filters, even after the Ford takeover. While the cartridge types are now Mahles, all the can types remain Manns.

And if the tears are real, it's pretty darn shocking. You might want to send those pix to Mann and Volvo, as they would not be pleased.

A Mann is still the best filter for these cars, based on the track record. I'll count this one as an aberration.

 

[LarryL]

Is a Ford Volvo a 'cheaper' Volvo, quality wise?

 

[Steve S]

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Originally posted by LarryL:
Is a Ford Volvo a 'cheaper' Volvo, quality wise?

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Volvos aren't like they used to be.

 

[ALS]

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Originally posted by Need2know:
Here are the pictures of a Volvo OEM filter I cut open. This was used on a 1994 960 wagon, was run 10,000 miles, which is the recommended interval. Oil used was Mobil 10-30, which was changed by the Volvo dealer, every 10,000 miles or in some cases sooner.

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I take it that your 965 is being used mostly on the Highway?

I change the oil in my 97 960 every 6 months which is less than 5K miles. I use M1 10W30 and Mann filters.

You do know that the 10K mile oil change is for only for extended trips and highway driving.

From Volvo and your owners manual. http://apps.volvocars.us/ownersdocs/1994/1994_960/94960_8_6.html#8.6

If driving conditions include:
Extended periods of idling and/or low-speeds operation. Frequent short trips (less than 7 miles = 11 km) Extended periods of driving in dusty and/or sandy areas Trailer towing Driving in mountainous areas
Then the correct oil/oil filter change interval is:
EVERY 6 MONTHS OR EVERY 5,000 miles= 8,000 km WHICHEVER COMES FIRST

Primarily highway driving
Frequent trips of longer than 7 miles = 11 km
EVERY 12 MONTHS OR EVERY 10,000 miles = 16,000 km WHICH EVER COMES FIRST

 

[turbochem]

Volvos aren't like they used to be

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Yeah, now they're areodynamic and attractive.....

(I own an 84 240 Turbo....)