Valvoline's definitely off Rollback

It looks like it’s back on rollback, at least if you order online.

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Royal Purple is looking better every day compared to these overpriced inferior oils.
Royal Purple has greatly cheapened their product line since they were acquired. They are not the company they once were.

Cheaper base oils, cheaper additive packages. They’re focused on squeezing out profit, not on a better product.

Paying more for Royal Purple over Valvoline is a wallet flush, not a performance increase.

Even if Royal Purple was cheaper, I would choose the Valvoline.
 
Royal Purple has greatly cheapened their product line since they were acquired. They are not the company they once were.

Cheaper base oils, cheaper additive packages. They’re focused on squeezing out profit, not on a better product.

Paying more for Royal Purple over Valvoline is a wallet flush, not a performance increase.

Even if Royal Purple was cheaper, I would choose the Valvoline.
RP used to be good, back in their non-API days; but, the new owners are just seeing how much $ they can milk off the old name before everyone gets wise to what they're doing. Kind of like K&N! RP oil filters are still good, at least at the moment.
 
Any price decrease this year?
I'd like to buy gear oil soon, but expensive


Inflation hits everything. Nothing is immune. If a extra $5 once or twice a year is going to affect your bottom line then you have bigger issues.

All we can do is keep our eyes and ears open for sales and rebates. Everything will be going up so my prediction is that $30 for a jug of oil is the new standard.
 
Inflation hits everything. Nothing is immune. If a extra $5 once or twice a year is going to affect your bottom line then you have bigger issues.

All we can do is keep our eyes and ears open for sales and rebates. Everything will be going up so my prediction is that $30 for a jug of oil is the new standard.
$5.00 once or twice a year won’t, but $5.00 multiple times a month for the past year has. We are feeling the affects, as are many.
 
I've been in BITOG for some years and there was always a "flavor of the month" that everyone adored. It was Havoline, PYB, etc....it just rotated thru brands. Still does a little today but really - any oil meeting your spec is going to serve well. I was a diehard Mobil 1 user since around 1985 - and still do use Mobil 1 more than anything else but I have opened my mind also and will use Supertech Syn pretty often with no worries. I shop a little by price and a little by brand today and I did buy some Max Life High mileage Syn due to roll back pricing and use it with confidence. I will use Supertech when its in the $20 range but when it went up to within a few bucks of Mobil 1 - I'll just go Mobil to but the 12qt Box which is super deal.
Well maybe its a Super Deal I've seen Mobil 1 prices move from $53 to $60 a box in some cases!
 
What's the Valvoline EP 5w30 (and Advanced) Noack? Thanks

Sounds like a mystery. I saw under 15 ... With that price better be under 9!
For me good chunk of moly doesn't compensate for a bad Noack.
 

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The SN Plus variation of Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 5w20 had a NOACK of 7.6 which was among the lowest in the industry for a Xw20 grade. The only brand that had a lower NOACK value for a Xw20 grade oil was Ravenol at 7.4.

I would have confidence that their SP licensed products have a NOACK value of well below 15 but it's anyone's guess as to why they will not put an exact figure on paper.
 
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