Valvoline Restore and Protect HTHS

[Hubes]

Hey everyone. I've been lurking for a while, but just joined so that I can post this. I emailed valvoline to ask what the HTHS is for restore and protect, and this is what they sent.

Please see the following HTHS values for Valvoline Restore and Protect:

Valvoline Restore and Protect HTHS (cP) 150°C:

0W-20 2.65
5W-20 3.17
5W-30 3.24

Thank you.
Valvoline Product Support

The 5w-20 looks really high for a 20 weight. I replied to ask if it was a typo, but haven't heard back. Just thought I'd share this because I hadn't been able to find it for the 5w-20.

 

[Patman]

It’s doubtful that it’s that high. The only 20 grade oils I know of that are in that range are Redline 5w-20 and HPL

 

[Rand]

Does not seem likely.

 

[fantastic]

Welcome! Thanks for sharing what Valvoline says.

 

[Hohn]

Hey everyone. I've been lurking for a while, but just joined so that I can post this. I emailed valvoline to ask what the HTHS is for restore and protect, and this is what they sent.

Please see the following HTHS values for Valvoline Restore and Protect:

Valvoline Restore and Protect HTHS (cP) 150°C:

0W-20 2.65
5W-20 3.17
5W-30 3.24

Thank you.
Valvoline Product Support

The 5w-20 looks really high for a 20 weight. I replied to ask if it was a typo, but haven't heard back. Just thought I'd share this because I hadn't been able to find it for the 5w-20.

The 5w-30 is pretty good for an API SP, non-Euro 5w-30. Most out there are well under 3.2.

 

[Japanese]

This information was already shared by a user on here, except the HTHS for the 5W-20, in the following thread:

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/valvoline-restore-and-protect.381635/page-3

 

[Hubes]

Yes, I had seen that, but like I said, I couldn't find the HTHS for the 5w20

 

[Mainia]

Can anyone do the math on what the HTHS would be if you use 4 Qts of 5W-30 Valvoline Restore and Protect and 1 QT of 40W HPL Engine Cleaner?

 

[Blagoje]

Can anyone do the math on what the HTHS would be if you use 4 Qts of 5W-30 Valvoline Restore and Protect and 1 QT of 40W HPL Engine Cleaner?

2 + 2 = 5

 

[mt23]

Hey everyone. I've been lurking for a while, but just joined so that I can post this. I emailed valvoline to ask what the HTHS is for restore and protect, and this is what they sent.

Please see the following HTHS values for Valvoline Restore and Protect:

Valvoline Restore and Protect HTHS (cP) 150°C:

0W-20 2.65
5W-20 3.17
5W-30 3.24

Thank you.
Valvoline Product Support

The 5w-20 looks really high for a 20 weight. I replied to ask if it was a typo, but haven't heard back. Just thought I'd share this because I hadn't been able to find it for the 5w-20.

Any update from valvoline?

 

[Hubes]

Nope

 

[ZeeOSix]

Can anyone do the math on what the HTHS would be if you use 4 Qts of 5W-30 Valvoline Restore and Protect and 1 QT of 40W HPL Engine Cleaner?

Get the KV of each oil at 100C off their spec sheets, and use this oil mixing viscosity calculator. Enter the info and hit calculate.

https://www.widman.biz/English/Calculators/Mixtures.html

 

[McRightclick]

I asked Valvoline yesterday about the 20 weight HTHS numbers and just heard back, they seem to be sticking to their 3.17 number:

Please see the following HTHS values (cP) 150°C:

Valvoline Restore and Protect:
0W-20 2.65
5W-20 3.17

Is a value that high even possible for a XW-20?

 

[ZeeOSix]

I asked Valvoline yesterday about the 20 weight HTHS numbers and just heard back, they seem to be sticking to their 3.17 number:
Is a value that high even possible for a XW-20?

Less VIIs in the 5W-20 vs 0W-20 but does seem high for a 20 grade. Spec sheet shows KV100 = 8.4 cSt which is on the higher end of a 20 grade per SAE J300. Viscosity index is lower on the 5W-20 vs 0W-20 also. Under shear it may not lose a lot of viscosity of the level of VIIs is relatively low.

 

[chris719]

Very unlikely but I guess possible. 3.17 HTHS @ 8.4 cST KV100 would be an outlier.

 

[Patman]

I asked Valvoline yesterday about the 20 weight HTHS numbers and just heard back, they seem to be sticking to their 3.17 number:



Is a value that high even possible for a XW-20?

That’s an error. They are quoting you the HTHS of the 5w-30

 

[McRightclick]

That’s an error. They are quoting you the HTHS of the 5w-30

The 5W-30 is supposedly 3.24, a different number.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Very unlikely but I guess possible. 3.17 HTHS @ 8.4 cST KV100 would be an outlier.

Yeah, I don't think it's possible unless it was a no-VII formulation ... VI is 156, so must have some VIIs. I think HPL's no-VII xW-20 is over 3.0 cP HTHS (?).

 

[McRightclick]

Does LSJr have access to a HTHS test rig? I wonder if he (or anyone else) could be convinced to independently check it.

 

[Azimuth]

Yeah, I don't think it's possible unless it was a no-VII formulation ... VI is 156, so must have some VIIs.

What is the relationship between VI and VII content? HPL's PCMO 5w-20's VI is 150, and the no-VII 5W-20's VI is 140 (lower for no-VII). On the other hand, the 5W-30 PCMO VI is 158, and the no-VII VI for the 5W-30 is 171 (higher for no-VII).