Valvoline Maxlife Red Bottle 0w20

[Revving2Redline]

Just bought 2015 Honda Civic and was looking for a synblend other than COP/Honda 0w20. Found at Napa for 3.75qt...had to buy 24qts though. This will work great after my freebie oil changes. Will occassionally use Maxlife Synthetic 0w20 too. Already got weathertech floorliners, KN cabin filter, and AEM dryflow air filter.

 

[KingCake]

Not falling for this troll post.

 

[Revving2Redline]

Not a troll post. Valvoline even has a UPC 0-74130-99426-3 for it. Bring a napkin, you just got served.

 

[Manofsteel]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByAdbUvgVv0WMFNIdk94WXN3Y3c/view?usp=docslist_api

Hes right, they do make the semi synthetic maxlife red bottle in 0w20. This was news to me as I thought 0w grades were all only full synthetic.
Perhsps they are just bottling syn power full synthetic 0w20 and marketing it as semi synthetic?? They could rightfully do so since most synthetic oil is really hydrocracked group3 anyway. If so its an even better buy like magnetec 5w20 is.

 

[wemay]

Quite a few 0w20 synthetic blends out there.

 

[bigt61]

Some 0W-20 SynBlends:

Motorcraft
https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.c...ory=Motor%20Oil

Kendall
http://www.phillips66lubricants.com/documents/Kendall/engine_oil/Ken%20GT-1%20High%20Perf%20Syn%20Blend%20MO%20%28Ti%29%20TDSw%20815899.pdf

76 Super
http://www.phillips66lubricants.com/docu...Sw%20778615.pdf

Castrol
http://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/8D1D0BDE9CD081CC80257AA900533A56/$File/GTX_SynBlend_2012.pdf

Havoline
http://www.chevronlubricants.com/en_US/products/products/havoline-synthetic-blend-motor-oil.html

 

[Bud_One]

Is there any benefit of running a syn blend vs a so called full synthetic ?

 

[robo339]

No

 

[bigt61]

Originally Posted By: Bud_One
Is there any benefit of running a syn blend vs a so called full synthetic ?

Yeah, it won't leak as much in an old high mileage car that ran on conventional it's whole life. But who'd be crazy enough to run 0W-20 in a car like that? Certainly not Merk.

 

[GMBoy]

I've noticed a few recent posts on BITOG where people have gotten brand new cars and already start using MAXLIFE oil. WHY? Why would anybody use a high mileage oil in a brand new vehicle? I surely wouldn't want any high mileage oil seal swelling additive in my NEW car until the day came that it did need it.

 

[kschachn]

Originally Posted By: GMBoy
I've noticed a few recent posts on BITOG where people have gotten brand new cars and already start using MAXLIFE oil. WHY? Why would anybody use a high mileage oil in a brand new vehicle? I surely wouldn't want any high mileage oil seal swelling additive in my NEW car until the day came that it did need it.


What is it that you know that the manufacturer of the product doesn't? Do tell:

Quote:
From the Valvoline website:

Do I have to wait until my car reaches 75,000 miles before I can use MaxLife?

Valvoline MaxLife motor oil is designed for high mileage vehicles of 75,000 miles or more. However, it is perfectly acceptable to use the high mileage motor oil in new or used vehicles with less than 75,000 miles

 

[53' Stude]

I recall Bullwinkle saying he used MaxLife blend in his now retired E-250 work van, so what's the fuss?! If it's so bad my boss wouldn't have the PM tech's at work use it in new vehicles calling for 5w30

 

[pdxglocker9mm]

Well i know you are not talking about full synthetic
But check out the comparison chart.
Valvoline rates max life syn higher than syn power which i think is weird. I would expect it to meet syn power in all categories then exceed it in the "other" category that includes seal swelling.
But max life syn seems to exceed in a few areas.

 

[subaru1991]

After looking at some of these data sheets, it seems that the quality semi-syns are very similar to the full synthetic versions. The gaps seem to have closed considerably since the last time I compared them, which was quite a few years ago.

I've been using the Maxlife Synpower recently, but I think in the future I'll go back to the regular Maxlife syn blend and put the difference into a better oil filter.

 

[akela]

Originally Posted By: GMBoy
I've noticed a few recent posts on BITOG where people have gotten brand new cars and already start using MAXLIFE oil. WHY? Why would anybody use a high mileage oil in a brand new vehicle?

perhaps because it's API SN spec'd?

However, I am also wondering are there any long-term effects of using seal-swellers in the new engine. How does it impact the rubber properties, say, 10 years down the road?

 

[GMBoy]

Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
I've noticed a few recent posts on BITOG where people have gotten brand new cars and already start using MAXLIFE oil. WHY? Why would anybody use a high mileage oil in a brand new vehicle? I surely wouldn't want any high mileage oil seal swelling additive in my NEW car until the day came that it did need it.


What is it that you know that the manufacturer of the product doesn't? Do tell:

Quote:
From the Valvoline website:

Do I have to wait until my car reaches 75,000 miles before I can use MaxLife?

Valvoline MaxLife motor oil is designed for high mileage vehicles of 75,000 miles or more. However, it is perfectly acceptable to use the high mileage motor oil in new or used vehicles with less than 75,000 miles



Still - NO way I want my NEW non-leaking seals SWELLED. I don't care what they say.

 

[GMBoy]

Originally Posted By: akela
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
I've noticed a few recent posts on BITOG where people have gotten brand new cars and already start using MAXLIFE oil. WHY? Why would anybody use a high mileage oil in a brand new vehicle?

perhaps because it's API SN spec'd?

However, I am also wondering are there any long-term effects of using seal-swellers in the new engine. How does it impact the rubber properties, say, 10 years down the road?



That's my concern - the seals down the road. There's plenty of excellent oils that are not high mileage to be chosen from.

 

[53' Stude]

Well, if MaxLife red jug is SN approved as well as "resource conserving" I highly doubt it's going to bad or worse things to a deal over time.

 

[Branson304]

Originally Posted By: GMBoy
I've noticed a few recent posts on BITOG where people have gotten brand new cars and already start using MAXLIFE oil. WHY? Why would anybody use a high mileage oil in a brand new vehicle? I surely wouldn't want any high mileage oil seal swelling additive in my NEW car until the day came that it did need it.



It doesn't "swell" your seals, that's what stop leak additives do... high mileage oils have seal conditioners that simply keep the seals soft & pliable to prevent leaks. And guess what? Many places that carry Valvoline use MaxLife as their main synthetic blend going into new & old cars alike. There's no harm in running a high mileage oil in a newer engine, no harm AT ALL. I would never hesitate to use MaxLife in a young engine. If it was so horrible for engines & their seals, it wouldn't meet DEXOS, API SN & ILSAC GF-5. Ignorance is bliss.

 

[53' Stude]

+10,000.