Valvoline Advanced Synthetic D1G2/5w30, 6,087MI, 09 Saturn

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Unit: 2009 Saturn Vue XR 3.6 (LY7 non DI engine) Oil: Valvoline Advanced Synthetic Dexos1 Gen2 5w30 with a manufacture date of Jan 23 2018 MI on Oil: 6,087 MI on Unit: 37,300 Make up Oil: 0 Previous fill: Valvoline Synpower D1G1/5w30 (old sodium formula) Lab: Blackstone Oil Life Monitor: ~20%
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 			6,087	VOA	Universal Averages
					for GM 3.6 Engine 	 
ALUMINUM 		5	1	4
CHROMIUM 		1	0	1		 
IRON 			12	1	20		 
COPPER		        7	0	6		 
LEAD 			0	0	1		 
TIN 			0	0	1		 
MOLYBDENUM 		60	66			 
NICKEL 			1	0			 
MANGANESE 		1	0			 
SILVER 			0	0			 
TITANIUM 		28	35			 
POTASSIUM 		0	0			 
BORON 		        43	247			 
SILICON 		20	10			 
SODIUM 		        108	1			 
CALCIUM 		1287	1145			 
MAGNESIUM 		685	844			 
PHOSPHORUS 		712	781			 
ZINC 			788	826		 
BARIUM 		        0	0		 

SUS Viscosity @ 210°F	60.4	59.6			 
cSt Viscosity @ 100°C 	10.34	10.11			 
Flashpoint 		405	445			 
Fuel % 			<0.5	0		 
Antifreeze % 		0	0		 
Water % 		0	0		 
Insolubles % 		0.3	0			 
TBN			1.8	7.5			 
Since the Antifreeze level reported is zero, I assume the sodium is residual from the previous file of D1G1 Synpower. It appears to be an ok report on this somewhat new to me Saturn Vue XR. I changed the oil when I got the vehicle with Synpower, Ran one OCI for 5K, then switched to D1G2 Valvoline Advanced.
 
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37,000 miles in 9 years!?!? Not used much. You beat the iron universal average target of 20 ppm by quite a bit. This engine is doing fantastic. I'm a little surprised the TBN is that low, given the miles, but a lot of short trips would do that.
 

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Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
37,000 miles in 9 years!?!? Not used much. You beat the iron universal average target of 20 ppm by quite a bit. This engine is doing fantastic. I'm a little surprised the TBN is that low, given the miles, but a lot of short trips would do that.
Roger the short trips, ~75% @ 5 mile commutes to work and back. Bought it from a 92 year old, He wanted something "snapper" than a 8 year old Saturn to impress the babes at the senior center laugh
 
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Originally Posted By: smithph
Bought it from a 92 year old, He wanted something "snapper" than a 8 year old Saturn to impress the babes at the senior center laugh
How about a tricycle? At any rate, engine looks like it's doing well.
 
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Originally Posted By: smithph
Roger the short trips, ~75% @ 5 mile commutes to work and back. Bought it from a 92 year old, He wanted something "snapper" than a 8 year old Saturn to impress the babes at the senior center laugh
So what did he end up getting? My FIL's pick was a Camry Hybrid for MIL.
 

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Originally Posted By: PandaBear
Originally Posted By: smithph
Roger the short trips, ~75% @ 5 mile commutes to work and back. Bought it from a 92 year old, He wanted something "snapper" than a 8 year old Saturn to impress the babes at the senior center laugh
So what did he end up getting? My FIL's pick was a Camry Hybrid for MIL.
I do not know for sure, but I think he may have been turning over his keys for good as his grandson was helping him with the sell.
 

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Very viscosity stable, KV100 hardly changed from the VOA value.
 

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Comparing VOA to UOA numbers - why did the Boron go down from 247 to 43?
 

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Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Comparing VOA to UOA numbers - why did the Boron go down from 247 to 43?
I've seen boron significantly decrease from VOA levels ever since I started using BITOG. I think it tends to evaporate out of the oil at a considerable rate. I doubt the idea that it significantly attaches itself to engine surfaces, thereby separating itself from the oil. This boron reduction is more than I usually see. The previous fill had no boron, IIRC. Note how much sodium is left over from the previous fill, so quite a bit of the previous fill did not drain out. If the previous fill indeed had no boron, it significantly reduced the concentration of boron when the new oil was mixed with the old.
 

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Bought it from a 92 year old, He wanted something "snapper" than a 8 year old Saturn to impress the babes at the senior center laugh
I can relate to the need to impress the babes at the senior center!
 
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TBN is down to 1.8 after 6K miles. This oil would not handle 10K miles OCI. Umimpressive as Valvoline's top of the line synthetic, compared to PUP and M1EP. In other words, not Advanced enough.
 
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Originally Posted by Onetor
How does Calcium increase?
Pick up of residual calcium from previous OCI, variation in testing, etc.
 
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Originally Posted by camryrolla
TBN is down to 1.8 after 6K miles. This oil would not handle 10K miles OCI. Umimpressive as Valvoline's top of the line synthetic, compared to PUP and M1EP. In other words, not Advanced enough.
You're assumption is not necessarily correct. You may find some useful information in the previous post below. https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2698779
 
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