USPS -- Plummeting Volume and Revenue?

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Originally Posted By: PandaBear
Originally Posted By: XS650
Back to my original question, what data do you have that backs up your comment that they lose money on 1st class mail?


None, I pull it out of my behind.


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I use the flat rate priority mail boxes and never have an issue. I will never use DHL. Probably a reason (last time I checkeded) they're going under. I've never seen a place miss-deliver a TRANSMISSION more than once (trans builder on impala forum that learned about DHL the hard way).

I think the USPS should stay with 6 days of delivery. Maybe cut out Wednesday, but start offering sunday delivery for special packages. I don't think Fedex or UPS has sunday delivery. I'm sure quite a few people would pay for it if it were a reasonable cost..
 
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DHL is a franchise ..or at least can be a franchise.

USPS does have some exclusive delivery options for Express mail. I had a package delivered to some place in Conn. on Thanksgiving Day. No funny charges or anything
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I dunno
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Not according to google
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Edit: Hmmm ..but

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As of November 10, 2008 DHL Express U.S. no longer accepts Domestic Express and Ground shipments, unless a valid DHL account number is used for payment.

The world’s leading global express delivery and logistics company continues to deliver world-class international service. The recent changes to our U.S. network are designed to strengthen our ability to provide you with our industry-leading international services. And nobody has more experience shipping to more overseas destinations than we do.

Additionally, on November 29, 2008 Ground Hazardous Materials and Saturday shipping services will end. Please make alternate arrangements for these shipments by then. Final pickups will be on your last regularly scheduled date prior to November 29.

COD service will be discontinued effective December 19, 2008. The last day COD shipments will be accepted is December 31, 2008. Please make alternate arrangements for these shipments.

Please note: The service guarantees for DHL’s U.S. domestic products end on November 17, 2008.
 
Originally Posted By: GROUCHO MARX
Isn't DHL out of business?


I think today is the last day for domestic shipments with DHL.

My employer switched to them from UPS for shipping our parts and it was a hit or miss operation. We've since moved to FedEx for our shipping, but I occasionally get a part with a DHL return tag, so I have to find someplace that still has a DHL pickup.

When working from home, I've been using the local PakMail and they swear by DHL when it comes to international shipping. DHL will still be in the international shipping biz, just not domestic shipping. They were still taking DHL packages last week, but I think they don't have a pickup everyday. They call the driver for a pickup if they have anything.

So yeah, that's a long DHL is getting out of the US domestic market, but still doing international shipments.
 
I was just getting ready to post this...

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
I dunno
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Not according to google
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Edit: Hmmm ..but

Quote:
As of November 10, 2008 DHL Express U.S. no longer accepts Domestic Express and Ground shipments, unless a valid DHL account number is used for payment.

The world’s leading global express delivery and logistics company continues to deliver world-class international service. The recent changes to our U.S. network are designed to strengthen our ability to provide you with our industry-leading international services. And nobody has more experience shipping to more overseas destinations than we do.

Additionally, on November 29, 2008 Ground Hazardous Materials and Saturday shipping services will end. Please make alternate arrangements for these shipments by then. Final pickups will be on your last regularly scheduled date prior to November 29.

COD service will be discontinued effective December 19, 2008. The last day COD shipments will be accepted is December 31, 2008. Please make alternate arrangements for these shipments.

Please note: The service guarantees for DHL’s U.S. domestic products end on November 17, 2008.
 
There was a 60 minutes report on the USPS some years ago. The same problems were in their genesis regarding email, faxing and electronic payments.

First class mail wasn't a loss leader overall, but in rural areas it was a dog. This was the reason the USPS would not allow private companies to cherry pick areas to provide cheaper local delivery of mail.

Junk, presorted mail was a bonanza.
 
Originally Posted By: ViragoBry
When I was a kid, I remember our postal carrier parking her Jeep at the corner of our street and walking the mail to each house. When she ran out, she'd go refill and keep walking.

G*d forbid one of these fat @ss current-day carriers step outside their truck for any reason. My mail carrier weighs at least 400lbs and I cringe when he actually has to get out and bring something to the front door. He looks like a 5-foot tall Weeble. But to avoid that, he's been known to cram boxes in my mailbox so tighly that I have to use forceps to extract them. I've grown very tired of the inefficiencies, slow and discourteous service and the 'couldn't care less' attitude of every postal employee I encounter. The ones behind the counter at the post office are THE WORST. I've stopped using them altogether and rather take a beating than set foot in a post office. I pay my bills online and ship everything possible via Fedex. Most of the time, the only thing in my mailbox is grocery store ads and other junk. The less they deliver to me, and the less business I give them, the happier I am.


At least back in San Diego, our carriers were not allowed to leave the trucks unattended during their shifts for the risk of mail theft....so it was driving up to each house instead of parking and walking.
 
I wonder why the cost of bulk mail is still so much lower than 1st class. At one time having it presorted was probably a real cost savings. I doubt it is anymore with automated sorting equipment. I imagine the direct marketing lobby has more to do with the rates than actual cost.

I predicted a drop in their parcel volume when they went to distance sensitive rates and raised their prices. Why would people pay the USPS almost as much as UPS when they don't have things like real time online tracking.

In the last few years I've had a couple of somewhat expensive items lost by the USPS. Yes I got my $ back eventually but I've never had it happen with either UPS or FedEx.
 
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It bugs me that junk mail gets a break since it is considered as being piggy-backed on the regular first-class mail system. Instead, they should have junk mail bear the brunt of the cost and have regular mail piggy-backed onto the system.

I feel sorry for the mailman who has to walk up to my house just to deliver a piece of junk mail.
 
I just want to know who actually even as much as looks at junk mail. I throw it unchecked into the recycle bin. What a waste.
 
Originally Posted By: moribundman
I throw it unchecked into the recycle bin.

No shredding of address/name–or already taken care of with this?
 
Originally Posted By: moribundman
I just want to know who actually even as much as looks at junk mail. I throw it unchecked into the recycle bin. What a waste.


I would like to see the USPS have an option where residents could have the post office not deliver junk mail to their address. The price of junk mail could be increased to pay for that custom service.
 
Originally Posted By: moribundman
I just want to know who actually even as much as looks at junk mail. I throw it unchecked into the recycle bin. What a waste.


Well, at least around here, much of the junk mail is coopins for local establishments, mainly restaurants. I read them and use the ones for places I frequent and like.

I guess that wouldn't be junk mail then.
 
Originally Posted By: jsharp
I wonder why the cost of bulk mail is still so much lower than 1st class. At one time having it presorted was probably a real cost savings. I doubt it is anymore with automated sorting equipment. I imagine the direct marketing lobby has more to do with the rates than actual cost.

I predicted a drop in their parcel volume when they went to distance sensitive rates and raised their prices. Why would people pay the USPS almost as much as UPS when they don't have things like real time online tracking.

In the last few years I've had a couple of somewhat expensive items lost by the USPS. Yes I got my $ back eventually but I've never had it happen with either UPS or FedEx.


The UPS in my area lost a .... CEILING FAN.... a box that is at least 40lb and 3'x1'x1' because they left it in front of my house instead of ringing the bell.

USPS is still way cheaper for small packages. I send lots of media mail and small parcel posts that would have cost $6+ for UPS or FedEx, and only $3-4 for USPS with delivery confirmation.
 
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